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tricha
03-02-2014, 11:27 PM
The answer to all my questions.


Jim Rogers is an investment guru. Here is his take on where to invest.

I wonder how many of people on Sharetrader will come up with the same conclusion, I have on this presentation. ??????????????

Well worth a listen. Jim talks Air Lines, Bonds, Money Printing and Oil.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMUlkvdH8WM

JBmurc
04-02-2014, 08:26 PM
Invest In the best companies in the sectors most oversold i.e -Resources

Gold miners outlook
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO1pA6VC-8Y

Skol
04-02-2014, 08:57 PM
"Jim talks airlines".

Not so long ago you were telling us all that airlines were all going bust because of peak oil. Jim Rogers changes his story to suit the suckers that listen to him, just like Mike Maloney, Marc (the USA will suffer an economic collapse by the end of 2013) Faber, Eric von Greyerz, Eric Hommelberg and all those other Schiff heads.

Why don't you contact your buddies in Cuba and buy some property there for when the great socialist experiment collapses, which is not far off? Property in schiffhouse places like Bulgaria and Romania went exponential when communism collapsed.

You know what I'm talking about don't you tricha?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2uszzChiuc

tricha
04-02-2014, 10:13 PM
Invest In the best companies in the sectors most oversold i.e -Resources

Gold miners outlook
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO1pA6VC-8Y

Different take to mine JB.

tricha
04-02-2014, 10:16 PM
"Jim talks airlines".

Not so long ago you were telling us all that airlines were all going bust because of peak oil. Jim Rogers changes his story to suit the suckers that listen to him, just like Mike Maloney, Marc (the USA will suffer an economic collapse by the end of 2013) Faber, Eric von Greyerz, Eric Hommelberg and all those other Schiff heads.

Why don't you contact your buddies in Cuba and buy some property there for when the great socialist experiment collapses, which is not far off? Property in schiffhouse places like Bulgaria and Romania went exponential when communism collapsed.

You know what I'm talking about don't you tricha?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2uszzChiuc

Try again Skol, what conclusion do you have on Jim Rogers presentation ?????

"I wonder how many of people on Sharetrader will come up with the same conclusion, I have on this presentation. ??????????????"

Skol
04-02-2014, 10:50 PM
I don't watch Jim Rogers, Gerald Celente, James Turk, the Aden sisters, Ron Paul, Rick Rule or any of those other losers tricha.

JBmurc
04-02-2014, 10:55 PM
Different take to mine JB.

fair enough is what 99% of ASX investors also think ...esp.Gold/Silver sector

A fresh battle over the debt ceiling is looming....the Debt issues just isn't going away worldwide

--The First battle of addiction is first understanding you have a problem....

There's one Ugly Fiat currency Correction coming ....then on the other side you have PM oversold unloved(and other resources) yet has 5000yr+ of history of keeping value and trade during which it's seen Wars,Revolutions,famines,depressions,black death etc etc ....Fully International Fiat money has been here for what 43yrs and is major trouble and needing billions to be printed to keep afloat (which is not different that the thousands of fiat currencies that failed to hold value before 1971)

Brief history on gold/silver as money --- http://goldratefortoday.org/history-gold/

JBmurc
04-02-2014, 10:57 PM
I don't watch Jim Rogers, Gerald Celente, James Turk, the Aden sisters, Ron Paul, Rick Rule or any of those other losers tricha.

You mean those muti-millionares an billionares .....yeah real losers what do they know

Skol
05-02-2014, 12:28 AM
You mean those muti-millionares an billionares .....yeah real losers what do they know

They got rich (if they are rich) selling bum advice and gold/silver to suckers.

Stick to my advice tricha, talk to your amigos in Havana and buy something on the Malecon.
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corran
05-02-2014, 08:58 AM
The answer to all my questions.

Jim Rogers is an investment guru. Here is his take on where to invest.

I wonder how many of people on Sharetrader will come up with the same conclusion, I have on this presentation. ??????????????

Well worth a listen. Jim talks Air Lines, Bonds, Money Printing and Oil.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMUlkvdH8WM

I listened to most of the video. My take out from his advice was to make hay while the sun shine but be careful as the whole thing is propped up by money printing and can't last.

He is bullish on Japanese and Russian shares, Chinese infrastructure (specifically railways), agriculture and some 'beat up' airlines.

I'm of the opinion that the crash is going to come sooner than later so it's hard for me to reconcile investing in those sectors at the moment. But perhaps I'm being a bit too risk averse.

Skol
05-02-2014, 11:19 AM
Auckland property.

Can't go wrong, once you sell in AKL you never get back.

JBmurc
05-02-2014, 01:53 PM
Auckland property.

Can't go wrong, once you sell in AKL you never get back.

Expect nothing less from a dorklander

stoploss
05-02-2014, 02:01 PM
This guy will look after it for you !!!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11197132

peat
05-02-2014, 02:44 PM
This guy will look after it for you !!!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11197132

Four years served for massive embezzlement. No wonder society is dubious of financial planners. That is not enough penalty for betraying the fiduciary responsibilities of a professional position.
I hope he is monitored closely to see that his lifestyle matches his future income whatever that may turn out to be. I am very dubious about the whereabouts of the lost funds. I reckon he may have done a deal with someone to hold the funds. Will the authorities notice if he suddenly starts living the life of Riley?

Skol
05-02-2014, 04:43 PM
Expect nothing less from a dorklander

Auckland average house price increase in 2013 - 18.6%

Queenstown Lakes average house price increase - 5%

stoploss
05-02-2014, 04:49 PM
Auckland average house price increase in 2013 - 18.6%

Queenstown Lakes average house price increase - 5%

Current performance is not indicative of future performance........

Skol
05-02-2014, 04:53 PM
Current performance is not indicative of future performance........

True, but in Auckland it consistently outstrips the rest of the country. There's always the place in AKL that's due for gentrification that's just around the corner where the fortune's going to be made.

When I was a kid I was a gibstopper in Herne Bay for a while. I used to think who the f would live here?

stoploss
05-02-2014, 05:09 PM
True, but in Auckland it is, consistently outstrips the rest of the country. There's always the place in AKL that's due for gentrification that's just around the corner where the fortune's going to be made.

When I was a kid I was a gibstopper in Herne Bay for a while. I used to think who the f would live here?

yea funny how it all changes , oh to have that hindsight....

Skol
05-02-2014, 05:14 PM
yea funny how it all changes , oh to have that hindsight....

Yep, but it's still there, you just have to locate that particular place. That's what I tell my kids, might be a crap life for a while. Like Te Atatu North, where you didn't live, now very desirable.

tricha
05-02-2014, 07:32 PM
Yep, but it's still there, you just have to locate that particular place. That's what I tell my kids, might be a crap life for a while. Like Te Atatu North, where you didn't live, now very desirable.

Dorkland properties are in a bubble.

If interest rates go up, pop ;)

Skol
05-02-2014, 07:57 PM
Dorkland properties are in a bubble.

If interest rates go up, pop ;)

Yes, but in the long haul tricha, you can't go wrong, it's a fact.

tricha
05-02-2014, 09:58 PM
I listened to most of the video. My take out from his advice was to make hay while the sun shine but be careful as the whole thing is propped up by money printing and can't last.

He is bullish on Japanese and Russian shares, Chinese infrastructure (specifically railways), agriculture and some 'beat up' airlines.

I'm of the opinion that the crash is going to come sooner than later so it's hard for me to reconcile investing in those sectors at the moment. But perhaps I'm being a bit too risk averse.

at my age Corran, I am with you.

makes me wonder what Jim's game is.

I am guessing u have to put your cash to work somewhere, if u have millions.
Let's face it if u have 100 million and lose 50, so what.

In my case, I am happy to take low risks and have an easy retirement.
case by case, everyone to their own.
Happy retirement.

corran
06-02-2014, 12:54 AM
I was pondering this thread when biking to work this morning. For me it's not about where to spend 'ones money' but also whether to spend money that one doesn't have (i.e. debt).

I was cycling through the 'rich side' of my town. The tiny road I was biking on was grid-locked with new land rovers and range rovers (ridiculous vehicles for a small town in the most heavily populated part of the Netherlands).
The houses in this part of town are worth well over 1 million euros.

The people who live here are often young families. I know for a fact that many are loaded to the gunnels with debt.

I live in a modest house and drive a 10 year old car. I have always strived to stay out of debt.

Is living within ones means a mugs game in this age where money is based on debt, economies are based on debt???

NZSilver
06-02-2014, 08:41 AM
I was pondering this thread when biking to work this morning. For me it's not about where to spend 'ones money' but also whether to spend money that one doesn't have (i.e. debt).

I was cycling through the 'rich side' of my town. The tiny road I was biking on was grid-locked with new land rovers and range rovers (ridiculous vehicles for a small town in the most heavily populated part of the Netherlands).
The houses in this part of town are worth well over 1 million euros.

The people who live here are often young families. I know for a fact that many are loaded to the gunnels with debt.

I live in a modest house and drive a 10 year old car. I have always strived to stay out of debt.

Is living within ones means a mugs game in this age where money is based on debt, economies are based on debt???

so many people live well beyond their means, taking high intrest debt to buy fancy cars which depreciate at a huge rate. Buying the latest cell phones instead of eating properly. But is it their fault? - People just continually get hounded by the commercial world for their cash to buy items, and when they don't have cash their is buy now pay later (visas and loans). I think people know no better and therefore it has become the norm - I really think they need to educate people early on about personal finances and bring more compulsory saving schemes like kiwi saver.

In4a$
07-02-2014, 11:57 AM
I was pondering this thread when biking to work this morning. For me it's not about where to spend 'ones money' but also whether to spend money that one doesn't have (i.e. debt).

I was cycling through the 'rich side' of my town. The tiny road I was biking on was grid-locked with new land rovers and range rovers (ridiculous vehicles for a small town in the most heavily populated part of the Netherlands).
The houses in this part of town are worth well over 1 million euros.

The people who live here are often young families. I know for a fact that many are loaded to the gunnels with debt.

I live in a modest house and drive a 10 year old car. I have always strived to stay out of debt.

Is living within ones means a mugs game in this age where money is based on debt, economies are based on debt???

It's a mugs game I reckon corran. I worked hard at two jobs when young to pay off my first house, been debt free eversince apart from small mortgage when changing houses. Bought a new car last year and as always paid cash, dont buy anything unless got the cash. Much more relaxed life style than some freinds who run huge mortgages to buy houses, rentals, holidays,cars, etc

stoploss
07-02-2014, 02:20 PM
Four years served for massive embezzlement. No wonder society is dubious of financial planners. That is not enough penalty for betraying the fiduciary responsibilities of a professional position.
I hope he is monitored closely to see that his lifestyle matches his future income whatever that may turn out to be. I am very dubious about the whereabouts of the lost funds. I reckon he may have done a deal with someone to hold the funds. Will the authorities notice if he suddenly starts living the life of Riley?

they don't muck around in Aussie ...much the same amount of money involved ...
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/9696895/Fraudster-prince-loses-appeal

In4a$
07-02-2014, 02:47 PM
What I have been surprised about the last 20 years, is how quickly savings can grow. My super schemes and the like done really well.
And of course when debt free one has plenty of money left in the pay packet for regular holidays away, no need to scrimp and save.
I was taught the principal of saving by my parents and at school, dont think they do it now, shame really, think how well off NZ would be if we had a generation of savers instead of property investors.!

JBmurc
10-02-2014, 08:09 PM
Auckland average house price increase in 2013 - 18.6%

Queenstown Lakes average house price increase - 5%

LOL could pay me to live in that rat race ...I did once want to invest in the Auckland Apartment market during 09 but the stupid bank I was dealing wasn't keen on the idea and wanted me to front with 40% deposit at the time ....now that was a great time to buy ...wouldn't touch it with a barge pole currently not till the bubble pops on higher loan costs

Queenstown 2nd fastest growing Ski resort in the World...only so much land left in the valley ....got our house on 2800sqm of flat sun drenched land 20min bike to International Airport ....

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/9519718/Queenstown-second-fastest-growing-ski-resort

130mill project just down the road

http://www.scene.co.nz/130-million-project-begins/313194a1.page?print=yes

be buying my 2014 Mountain pass again I see Remarkable's Ski field 30mill upgrade currently been underway

This is my local Golf course 30min drive $585 per year

http://www.queenstowngolf.co.nz/

-----Yeah you can keep Dorkland all for yourself Skol

Skol
11-02-2014, 07:28 AM
JB,

I don't live in Auckland, but I own a commercial property there, I live in the country outside the city. Not far from here there's 14,000 houses and apartments planned, there's fortunes been made by those who got in at the right time.

Waterview and Avondale are the next areas for gentrification, or as some of my friends call it, A-vondalay.

Todays Herald:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11199642