BP, the cop did not murder Flloyd. Any cop that does murder should be held to account.
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You trying to rewrite the verdict from the trial which found the officers guilty of murder/man-slaughter?
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/0...otest-arrested
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2087360.html
Derek Chauvin will spend the next two decades in prison for the murder of George Floyd.
Now, the three other Minneapolis police officers who failed to stop Chauvin from kneeling on Floyd’s neck for more than nine minutes will serve sentences of their own.
https://i.insider.com/5ed837b5f0f419...jpeg&auto=webp
How do you know I never complained about the murderer in police uniform?
Your Nazi German dormant gene asserting itself again?
https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/imag...=webp&vtcrop=y
And while we are on the subject of the Greens & violence, recall what Greens' leader said?
Marama Davidson : it’s “white cis men who cause violence in the world”.
https://content.api.news/v3/images/b...d890e7a8f6fff5
Completely untrue but that hypocrite Hipkins accepted her explanation - says a lot about just how woke and disgusting MSM & the leftist elitist politicians are.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/131...owup-statement
And has anyone ever heard her condemn the killing of Maori babies by their whanau & then, allowed to get away because of non-cooperation with the murder investigation?
Or for that matter, condemnation by any leftist ministers and MPs?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/resizer/s...CKZHTSHGAI.jpg
The article you posted a link to says that New Zealand outranks other comparable countries when it comes to rates of family violence, particularly intimate partner violence and abuse.
And it’s predominantly perpetrated by men, against women and children.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/131...owup-statement
Auckland University associate professor of sociology Vivienne Elizabeth has previously told Stuff while abuse is usually measured in terms of physical assault the defining feature of many oppressive relationships is actually coercive control – a pattern of behaviour used to isolate, scare and entrap.
Family violence in particular is difficult to quantify because it takes many forms and is under-reported. But we know it’s the largest driver of violent crime in Aotearoa New Zealand. And it’s predominantly perpetrated by men, against women and children.
Warped masculinity is fuelling NZ's fatal family violence problem.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/112594136/the-homicide-report-lays-bare-new-zealands-problem-with-family-violence
New Zealand consistently outranks other developed countries when it comes to rates of family violence, particularly intimate partner violence and child abuse.
Neville Robertson, a community psychologist and former senior lecturer at Waikato University. But after 30 years of researching domestic violence and working with perpetrators, he says, one common trait he's noticed among all violent men is their belief in male superiority. "They have a very hierarchical view of relationships and it's one where men are seen as more important, the breadwinner. They're very reluctant, or unable, to conceive that relationships could be equal."
They believe that men are decision makers, for example, and women are responsible for child care, he says. "Many men will use violence to protect those privileges. If [their partner] leaves, for example, they'll protect those privileges."
New Zealand has bred generations of men who are unable to express their feelings: "So they act out in super masculine ways just to solidify their claims to masculine credentials."
Violence against women and children isn't part of traditional Māori culture. Rather, the violence within whānau we see today reflects the patriarchal norms of the colonising culture, as well as trauma from widespread fragmentation of Māori social structures that were enforced during and after colonisation, according to the FVDRC.
The uncle of the Lower Hutt toddler killed by blunt force trauma says Oranga Tamariki let their whānau down after a complaint he laid 11 months ago achieved nothing.
Ruthless-Empire died on October 22 after he was taken to Hutt Hospital in Wellington in an unresponsive state.
A post-mortem revealed he had died due to blunt force trauma and had several injuries and bruising on his body. Police said the injuries were not accidental, and believe they were inflicted up to 12 hours before he died.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/133...ost-a-year-ago
https://resources.stuff.co.nz/conten...ptimize=medium
I understand why you're always so angry, - its because you see things that aren't there, an extreme polarisation which results in a distorted view of anything that you perceive as questioning your rigid inflexible view of your world.
I've never for condoned Hamas any more than you have.
What I said, & continue to stand by, was-
"All these years (75 years) the West has continued to look the other way, & ignored the human rights abuses, the apartheid state, the dispossession of their homeland, little wonder Palestinians feel so desperate & completely abandoned by the West.
To some extent the West must bear some responsibility for the continuing cycle of violence & counter violence & the current inexcusable atrocity by Hamas."
These latest Hamas atrocities & the human catastrophe unfolding in Gaza didn't just start now & come out of no where, they're a continuing cycle of violence which has been going on for decades.
Generally you use personal insults and attacks, such as the one above, which is a form of violence and a precursor to physical violence.
As the German-Swiss poet, novelist and painter Hermann Hesse once said: “If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us.”
People who frequently use insults should understand that things are not only as they see them and that they are not possessors of an absolute truth that allows them to judge the others with arrogance.
I agree the West has continued to look the other way, & ignored the human rights abuses in Palestine.
Dr. Gabor Maté is a Hungarian-Canadian physician who specializes in childhood development and trauma, and their potential lifelong effects.
He is also a Jewish Holocaust survivor who has written extensively about the events.
He has recently broken his silence over the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which he describes as the longest ongoing ethnic cleansing operation in the recent and present centuries, the ongoing attempt to destroy Palestinian nationhood.
He believes that there is no understanding Gaza out of context, and that context is the ongoing attempt to destroy Palestinian nationhood.
He also believes that the policies of Israel are not compatible with any desire for a just peace, and that the Palestinians lack the military power of Israel.
He believes that the mutual pain in Israel and Palestine is so acute that its citizens are forced to act out in an endless cycle of perpetration and retribution.
https://www.the-express.com/news/wor...rael-palestine
Dr. Gabor Maté broke his silence over the weekend in a “long overdue” conversation about the latest round of escalating violence in Israel-Palestine that began earlier this month.
https://www.the-express.com/news/world-news/116862/holocaust-survivor-gabor-mate-israel-palestine
Dr. Maté says that the October 7 attack was an “unjustifiable atrocity and tragedy” that was “historically reminiscent of other assaults that Jews have experienced throughout history.”
He says it's “a very difficult” and “emotional” conversation because it “brings up so much history, pain, and trauma,” which makes it “difficult to engage with the rational part of our minds.”
“From that point of view, the pain, the fear, the rage, and even the desire for revenge are totally understandable on the emotional side,” he says.
However, he says the issue is that in times like these when emotions are high it is “difficult” to see and acknowledge the “other side.”
He quotes from an Ha’artez article that Israeli journalist Amira Hass – who has been covering the daily atrocities committed in the West Bank for three decades – wrote following the attack: “In a few days, Israelis what Palestinians have experienced as a matter of routine for decades and are still experiencing - military incursions, death, cruelty, slain children, bodies piled up on the road, siege, fear, anxiety over loved ones, captivity and searing humiliation.”
He adds to her point: “History did not begin on October the 7th. If our intention is to move forward and create some basis for peace, we will have to be able to understand the experience of the ‘other.'"
To provide historical context, he mentions the Nakba in 1948 – Arabic for “catastrophe” – when 750,000 Palestinians were expelled from their historic land following Israel’s independence.
“Without going through the long history - I will only tell you that we have to ask ourselves: What fed such hatred, such desire for revenge, on the part of those people that broke out of Gaza?” he asks rhetorically, noting that Israeli sociologist Baruch Kimberling has called Gaza "the largest concentration camp in the world."
He adds: “None of this justifies it, again, but, I’m telling you, if you’re going to move forward on this, we have to be able to understand not just our own emotional reactions but also the emotions and circumstances that fuel the emotions of the other side.”
So sad and so true, IMHO there will be NO PEACE in that part of the world until there is a two party country /system, who implements it and how it would work is the question.
Israel has to come to the party and make this work or the fighting will go on for another 100 years and bankrupt it.
Exactly, right now Netanyahu is creating more Hamas militants/terrorists (whatever name you want to give them) than he's killing, it's called counterinsurgency mathematics.
All of the 8,000 Palestinians who have been killed by Israel so far will have relatives, & Hamas will be recruiting them as fast as possible.
Military responses to complex issues never work.
When Israel invaded Lebanon in 1982 to smash the PLO with thousands of tanks & soldiers, Hezbollah was created.
When Israel launched an offensive into Lebanon in 2006 to kill Hezbollah leaders & militants, as a result Hezbollah is far stronger today.
The US invasion & occupation of Iraq in 2003, ultimately resulted in a major civil war in Iraq & the creation of ISIS
A 2 State political solution is the only solution which will bring peace & stability, but the US has really lost it's moral authority as a neutral party to force the 2 sides together, since it vetoed the UN General Assembly's 128 Nation vote For v 12 Against, for a humanitarian ceasefire, and its total support & surging supply of advanced weapons to Israel (while at the same time it supplies Ukraine with weapons to repel Russia ).
Please continue with your debate here as this is the thread for Greens politics:
https://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showth...06#post1028006
Please continue with your debate here as this is the thread for Greens politics:
https://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showth...06#post1028006
Please continue with your debate here as this is the thread for Greens politics:
https://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showth...06#post1028006
Please continue with your debate here as this is the thread for Greens politics:
https://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showth...06#post1028006
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/nz-ele...IZAKJTFUDFZUE/
Green co-leader Marama Davidson's message for National: "Just try and come for the Treaty"
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Green co-leader Marama Davidson's message for National: "Just try and come for the Treaty"
As if we needed any more proof that The Greens priority is not the environment and hasn't been for many years.
That's okay - NZ needs a proper debate and a 1981 Springbok tour type upheaval is actually long overdue.
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Chloe Swarbrick screeching Hamas’ rallying cry like a banshee on Saturday pro-Palestine rally :
“From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=de...ature=youtu.be
TV3 approached Chloe, Marama (who was there with her) and Greens for comment about using the Hamas’ rallying cry but no reply so far.
Disgusting, repugnant and showing that she & the Greens support terrorists and Hamas.
And where is James Shaw, co-leader of Greens?
Hiding in the closet like a eunuch, castrated into silence to serve the racist & sexist leadership.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/green-...ERKBFZXTZ73DA/
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What nonsense you write saying Chloe Swarbrick & the Greens support terrorists & Hamas.
You just sound like someone desperate to suppress any criticism of Netanyahu & the Israeli military & distract from the monstrous indiscriminate killing over 10,000 trapped civilians, including well over 4,000 innocent children, hundreds of doctors & nurses, pregnant women, in the last 4 weeks & depriving over 2 million trapped people of clean drinking water, food, electricity & medicine, bombing hospitals & ambulances & schools & refugee camps. There are over 1,500 children missing, presumed buried under tons of concrete apartments, schools bombed to rubble.
She's calling for a humanitarian ceasefire as we all should be, & basic human rights for the Palestinian people both in the West Bank & Gaza Strip who struggle under inhuman conditions & have been ignored by the West for too long.
Interestingly, Egypt which shares a border with Gaza, are not accepting any Palestinian refugees. Why would that be?
Because there have been some who have proposed the idea Egypt gives up it's Sinai Peninsular to make a homeland for the Palestinians & once Egypt opens the gates to large numbers of refugees, they would be faced with millions of Palestinians escaping the horrors of being bombed, crossing the border into Egypt and settling there permanently.
There's a fear even after a ceasefire Israel would continue to make life so unbearable for Palestinians in the West Bank & Gaza they would never go back, that the West would submit to Israel, & Egypt would be faced with the major problem of a flood of up to 5 million Palestinians settling in the Sinai.
Egypt is not a wealthy country & an influx of a population of millions of displaced refugees with nothing but what they are carrying would cause huge problems.
It would be like NZ saying we'll give up the top half of the South Island so several million refugees could come and settle here.
Pressure must be put on the extreme elements of Israel & the Palestinians to form a 2 State solution within the area which prior to 1949 was known as Palestine.
The stark irony is that Chloe would never be able to be a practicing lesbian in any other Middle Eastern country than Israel. She would likely be tossed off a building in a "free" Hamas-ruled palestine.
It is more complicated than that.
Would Hamas even exist if Israel would not suppress the Palestinian people for now more than 75 years and keep them under inhumane conditions basically locked up in a small piece of desert instead of integrating them and allowing them to lead a normal life in dignity?
Would Hamas exist if Israel would not steal every year more Palestinean land Israel has occupied and give it against international law to hard right Jewish settlers who behave as if the land would be theirs?
Would Hamas be so strong if the crook Trump would not have supported the crook Nethanjahu in annexing the Paelstinian part of Jerusalem (East-Jerusalem) and declare it to Israels capital?
Hamas is a terror organisation without democratic legitimacy - no doubt about that, but Nethanjahu is as well a populist crook (like Trump used to be) who is working hard on dismantling the democratic framework in Israel for his personal benefits - and he stays in power by supporting the undemocratic extreme right in Israel. He enables Jewish Nazis to steal Palestinian land and continuously drive out more and more Palestinians out of the country of their parents.
What we now see is what happens if you enable crooks on both sides of a conflict to run the show - everybody suffers.
‘Jewish Nazis’. Just let that term sink in and then consider the person using the term, who subjects others to ‘negative reputation’ attacks, calls others ‘trolls’, and says of others ‘that says a lot about you’. Well when you have someone calling the people who were the victims of the Holocaust ‘Jewish Nazis’, then that says a lot about them & their complete lack of a moral compass.
There has never been a state called Palestine. The region was ruled for centuries by the Ottoman Empire, and then after its overthrow there was an archaic term ‘Palestine’ resurrected by the British and given to that area which was under their ‘Mandate’ (rule). The people described as ‘Palestinian’ are the same Arab people that populate the Middle East. Why do we not refer to then as Arabs in the same way that we refer to Jewish people as Jews?
The UN sought a ‘two state’ solution to solve intractable problems, there was to be a Jewish state & an Arab state, and Jerusalem was to be some sort of shared neutral zone. The Arabs fiercely opposed the partition plan - which then lead to war which the Zionists won. Ever since that time, the state of Israel has been fighting for its life against the Arabs.
These days Iran maintains its proxy forces in Gaza and Lebanon solely to be a perennial thorn in Israels side. Gaza and the West Bank are simply pawns in Iran’s game, the plight if the people living there is useful for propaganda purposes to rally Arab opposition to Israel. So long as Gaza is under the control of Hamas extremists - proxies of Iran - there can never be peace, can never be a two state solution which would bring peace. If a two state solution were adopted, Israel’s survival would be guaranteed. This is the last thing that Iran and Arab / Islamic extremists want. They still seek the destruction of Israel. The global Left are consequently also pawns and proxies of Iran; they seek to portray Arab people living in Gaza and the West Bank as somehow ‘indigenous’ and apply their same warped views as regards ‘colonisers’ as they do to places like New Zealand. There were Jews living in that area of the Levant for thousands of years, so they cannot be dismissed as blow ins from some other part of the planet.
That's the thing Logen. The Palestinians are not indigenous. If anything the Jews are. A well considered post on your part. Iran is meddling.
Black Peter using the term Jewish Nazi's. Words fail me.
I have an Arab ("Palestinian") adopted cousin who lives in Israel. She is a supporter of the IDF. As am I. Hamas needs to be wiped from the face of the earth. Scum.
Sad that you jump immediately to personal attacks and categorize people as "global Left" and similar BS. This narrow minded thinking is it what prevents solutions in conflict zones like the Near East. We first need to learn to open or minds and see both sides of a conflict before we can find a solution.
Anyway - we do agree that both Jewish people as well as Palestinian (or - if you like - Arab) people do have a historic right to live in this area. That's a good start, isn't it?
Both people have in the past generated groups committing unacceptable crimes and terrorism (just research at some stage the history of Jewish terrorism) - against each other and against other people. People who are suppressed do have a tendency to generate freedom fighters which the other side (and everybody at the wrong side of the bomb) sees as terrorists. This is true for all people, including Arab and Jewish people.
Jewish people have been in the past (as many other people) the victims of progroms and genocides, which gave them a right to compensation and might give them a right to more support from others, but it does not give them the right to harrass and drive out the legitimate owners of land which they just occupy and wish to possess. It does not give them the right either to indiscriminately kill innocent civilians in the thousands. What the Israelian Armed forces currently are doing in Gaza is skirting the limits to genocide. Just stop peoples access to food, medicine and water and bomb them for good measure - and if they are then dying, whose fault could that possibly be?
It is this behaviour I attributed to "Jewish Nazis". As you know - I tend to call a spade a spade and I call a troll a troll. If somebody who happens to be a Jew behaves like a Nazi, than I see no reason why I shouldn't call him a Jewish Nazi. Do you?
Black Peter revealing his dormant German Nazi genes, lurking always just under the surface.
Heil Hitler!
Phil Twyford was shouted down and had to be escorted from the rally because he condemned both sides for the atrocities committed against civilians.
Into his place at the podium stepped in Chloe, screeching her pro-Hamas & terrorism rhetoric. And what a rousing welcome the crowd gave her - she spoke their language of hate and murderous intent.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...-auckland.html
Twyford was eventually drowned out by the crowd yelling at him, before saying "OK, alright," and leaving the stage.
The crowd then cheered for Green MP Chlöe Swarbrick as Twyford left the gathering followed by a group of protesters.
The MC then said "sometimes people can't read the room" to applause.
Lots of misunderstanding there, for a start the region known as Palestine goes way back in ancient history & recognised by the Ancient Greeks.
Read the ancient Greek philosopher Herodotus (if you read Michael Ondaji's book "The English Patient" or saw the film, remember Ralph Fiennes character asks for Herodotus to be read to him)
However, consider many countries/Nations/States that exist today didn't "exist" in the sense you talk about prior to WW1.
e.g. The collapse of the Russian Empire created Finland & Poland. The Austro-Hungarian Empire dissolved into Austria & Hungry, Czechoslovakia & Yugoslavia which have dissolved again into new States.
Turkey came out of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.
Tell me you would deny any of these Countries are real or don't actually exist !
Secondly the State of Palestine has been recognised by 139 member countries of the UN.
How many times has Palestine declared War on it's neighbour (of course never officially announced
as such) under the Terrorist Hamas Leadership ? ;)
Yasser Arafat & PLO probably knew better than what Hamas have tried pulling off, and likely
consequences.
The Egyptians are probably fairly smart not wanting to go anywhere near repeat of 1967 with
larger powers overlooking the antics close by
As per usual Kiwiland's resident shallow Green Couch potatoes try to pluck what suits their own narrow
agendas out of things and spray forward trying to grasp any straw of relevance after they have been
by default unceremoniously delivered into the shade by Greater NZ, and hoping no-one else notices more
on their futile time-wasting attention-seeking tendencies :)
Has the joint Greens Head Honcho - James sorted out what Degrees he has or doesn't have yet .. or too hard / hazardous .. obviously hoping most have forgotten what was dug up during the election lead up ? ;)
The trail of Attention Seeking filth from Loose Lipped Chloe
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...with-six-words
'From the river to the sea': Why a Green MP caused controversy with six words
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On Saturday, Green MP Chlöe Swarbrick joined community groups, activists and politicians at a rally for Gaza held in Auckland.
At the conclusion of her speech, she chanted the first six words to a well known pro-Palestine slogan, “From the river to the sea”. To which the crowd replied, “Palestine will be free.”
These words are highly controversial.
In the UK, the centre-left Labour Party suspended its MP, Andy McDonald, recently after he said the words “between the river and the sea” at a pro-Palestine rally. The UK Labour Party called his comment “deeply offensive”.
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In October, Vienna police banned a pro-Palestinian protest, citing the fact the phrase “was mentioned in invitations and characterising it as a call to violence”.
The BBC has also reported the Metropolitan Police ended its relationship with an adviser who was filmed using the chant. And the UK Football Association has said it will consult police if players use the phrase, the Guardian reported.
Much of the offence comes from the fact that Hamas, the group that controls Gaza and which launched a deadly attack (killing more than 1000 civilians and taking hundreds of hostages) in October, includes the phrase in its constitution.
Its statement reads: “Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea.”
Nice to see Stuff reporting on Swarbricks inappropriate antics
To think that the Taxpayer is funding her MP Salary and excessive perks to act in this manner defies comprehension.
She should be stood down and put on the short list for removal from the Public Payroll on this
and banned from Parliament.
My point was no nation state of Palestine prior to the 1948 Palestine war. The British could have adopted any of a series of names for the former Ottoman Empire territory covered by their mandate. They could have called it 'The Mandate for the Southern Levant' or 'The Mandate for the Holy Land' or 'The Mandate for Judea' for example.
Since you refer to the writings of Herodotus, you can pick the bones out of all the different names and geographic spatial paradigms that this region has encompassed over its history.
The first written records referring to Palestine emerged in the 12th-century BCE Twentieth Dynasty of Egypt, which used the term Peleset for the neighboring people or land. In the 8th century BCE, the Assyrians referred to the region as Palashtu or Pilistu. In the Hellenistic period, these names were carried over into Greek, appearing in the Histories of Herodotus as Palaistine. In 6 CE, the Roman Empire established a province over the area known as Judaea, then in 132 CE (the time of the Bar Kokhba revolt) formed it into Syria Palaestina.[1] In 390, during the Byzantine period, the region was split into the provinces of Palaestina Prima, Palaestina Secunda, and Palaestina Tertia. Following the Muslim conquest of the Levant in the 630s, the military district of Jund Filastin was established. While Palestine's boundaries have changed throughout history, it has generally comprised the southern portion of regions such as Syria or the Levant.
It also conceptually overlaps with several terms of Judeo-Christian tradition, including Canaan, the Promised Land, the Land of Israel, and the Holy Land.
And then we have two centuries of human history during which the whole area consisted of the so-called 'Crusader States' -
The Crusader states, also known as Outremer, were four Catholic realms in the Middle East that lasted from 1098 to 1291. These feudal polities were created by the Latin Catholic leaders of the First Crusade through conquest and political intrigue. The four states were the County of Edessa (1098–1150), the Principality of Antioch (1098–1268), the County of Tripoli (1102–1289), and the Kingdom of Jerusalem (1099–1291). The Kingdom of Jerusalem covered what is now Israel, the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, western Jordan, and adjacent areas. The other northern states spanned the coastal areas of what are now Syria, southeastern Turkey, and Lebanon. The description "Crusader states" can be misleading, as from 1130 very few of the Frankish population were crusaders. The term "Outremer", used by medieval and modern writers as a synonym, is derived from the French for overseas.
Really, to claim their was ever - prior to the war of 1948 - a homogenous Palestinian people & nation state is the height of disingenuousness.
Has the eunuch James Shaw decided to reclaim one of his balls?
Green Party distances itself from Chloe’s pro Hamas and pro terrorism comments :
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/na...matory-speech/
Hard to comprehend how anybody is able to write such an offensive trash. But lets try to analyse that.
Balance complains about my German genes. Now, the interesting thing is - balance knows nothing about me ... otherwise he would have mentioned my Polish, Frensh and Jewish genes as well. Damn. Balance behaves like a clueless bully. Maybe this is what he is?
And yes, I would be allowed to complain about the cruelties of the Nazis (and I absolutely condemn them and always have) - the father of one of my grand dads "disappeared" during the Third Reich into a concentration camp and was never seen again.
I am however as well allowed to mention if the Israeli army is committing war crimes - and this is exactly what they are doing when they train their rockets on civilians and when they cut food and water supplies of a large civilian population which has no way to get away.
But lets stay with the Germanic genes you are so keen mentioning, shall we? Assuming the readers of this forum (including yourslef) are similar to the NZ Population, than about 72% of them are of European origin, and I would not know about anybody with European origin who has not as well Germanic genes - even the British crown is from Germany. Balance, you are not just offending and embarrassing yourself (which would be highly appropriate), but you are offending 72% of the other readers of this forum, as well as the British and NZ King.
Do we need to mention the "Führers Gruß" you gave us? Only Extreme right wing pigs use this phrase these days. Tells us all about the person using it.
Balance - you are behaving not just like an idiot, you are behaving like a racist, you are demonstrating your connection with one of the most disgusting political movements in history - and you are offending the British crown.
You are a disgrace to any forum.
Talks of ‘Jewish Nazis’, rants about the behaviour of others. None so blind and all that.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...OXBOWLBIULQVY/
Israel-Hamas war: Chlöe Swarbrick’s use of ‘river to the sea’ slogan at pro-Palestine rally deemed divisive and inflammatory by academics
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Two expert academics consider Green MP Chlöe Swarbrick’s use of a contentious slogan during a pro-Palestine rally in Auckland to be unhelpful, divisive and inflammatory.
The Human Rights Commission has warned political and community leaders not to inflame the situation or generate fear when speaking about the conflict, while Swarbrick has apologised for causing offence but has not ruled out using the chant in the future.
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Human Rights Commissioner Paul Hunt told RNZ many communities aren’t feeling safe at the moment.
“I think that our social cohesion is being severely tested at the moment and I really urge political leaders to demonstrate leadership and to keep in mind all communities,” Hunt said.
“Of course they’ve got the right to protest, but without making others feel unsafe.”
Hunt said, when asked about Swarbrick’s comments, that the commission had received “numerous” complaints over the weekend.
“You can protest, you can make your views known, but without inflaming the situation, without generating fear amongst our neighbours, colleagues and constituents. People are protesting for peace, so let’s protest peacefully.”
Not as if Greens weren't aware of use of it either:
Let's see what further happens on this now ..Quote:
New Zealand Jewish Council spokeswoman Juliet Moses said the council wrote to the Green Party after the phrase was used by MP Ricardo Menéndez March on social media in 2021 to express its concerns.
Wonder what happened with James's acclaimed Degrees Bull Sh!t ? ;)
Buried down the bottom of the garden hoping no-one would remember ? ;)
Hitler is likely to have had Jewish and African ancestry too. Evil can sprout up anywhere. Perhaps in your terminology sone people may well have English imperialist genes - with the propensity to confiscate, occupy and incarcerate? But wait - the traditional English gene pool is made up considerably of Celt, Saxon and Viking.
https://thebfd.co.nz/2023/09/15/jame...s-and-his-msc/
James Shaw, the Greens and His MSc
How da gen on da Degree coming along - James ? ;)
It can't be lost in the Long Grass out back already .. surely ? :)
Cry Baby almost gets Booted ;)
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...luxon-of-lying
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Swarbrick avoids being booted from the House
Green MP Chlöe Swarbrick has avoided being kicked out of the house after saying Prime Minister Christopher Luxon told a "demonstrable lie" by claiming his Government isn’t weakening the nation’s commitment to climate change.
Saying a member is lying is always out of order, Speaker of the House Gerry Brownlee said.
Swarbrick said she wasn’t calling Luxon is a liar, but that his claim was demonstrably untrue.
We are near the start of question time and it looks like it’s going to be fiery.
How are the Degrees of James faring for a belated fess up ? ;)
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/green-...BODLNFEEST5B4/
Too good
‘Prominent Green Party MP and human rights lawyer Gorillaz Ghahraman has stood aside from her portfolios after she was accused of shoplifting at an Auckland store, Newstalk ZB Plus understands.
The Green Party has confirmed it is aware of the allegations Ghahraman faces and that she “will stand aside from all portfolio responsibilities until the matter is resolved”.
According to sources, Ghahraman is understood to have been accused of shoplifting during the festive season from exclusive boutique clothing store Scottie’s Boutique in the electorate of fellow Green MP Chlöe Swarbrick.’
Golly Gosh
A group huddle needed to pull out a multitude of greasy green excuses ? ;)
How's James of Many Degrees doing on fessing up or still hard ? ;)
Did Golriz pinch a hijab to wear to Comrade Cinders' wedding, or as a wedding present for Cinders?
Not very rizz Golriz!
A Mugshot on here:
https://www.metromag.co.nz/society/s...ment-right-now
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Her values are unshakeable, and her resilience as strong as ever, she’s the sister we all deserve.
Quite a few other Lost & Forgotten souls star on the page too ..
Coming soon to Kiwiland .. no need to go to Iran:
https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Resta..._Province.html
Golriz burger
Our own very special Kiwi Green version :)
What's that quote The Greens love - "From the river to the sea our clothes will be free" ?
Classic memo, Do as I say not as I do !!
Or as the greens would say "dirty rotten capitalist shop's deserve to be stolen from".
Green Party members have previously attacked a Wellington car dealership with paint, causing criminal damage, and there was no censure from the party.
(The media never highlighted the Party's links to the criminals concerned. The media sympathises with the criminals, not the victims).
The Green Party is a criminal organisation, IMO.
Social media loving it …..alleged event happened before Christmas, shop was a donor to Chloe’s campaign fund and Golriz already fled the country ……and Green Party will pay for the goods allegedly stolen
Probably all lies but punters having fun
There has to be an innocent explanation.
Golriz is one of those rare politicians who truly believes in the garbage she spouts as a Green MP?
She was calling for a 'Free' Palestine - she must have a different definition of 'Free' than everyone else! :eek2:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1Z650kV...pg&name=medium
Here we go ... Golly's Green Azz Covering excuses unveiled
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/green-...DZM3T2HK4EJTY/
Green MP Golriz Ghahraman overseas as police investigate shoplifting allegations at Ponsonby boutique
Quote:
Green MP Golriz Ghahraman is overseas as she faces allegations of shoplifting from an upmarket Auckland clothing boutique, the Herald can reveal.
Ghahraman left New Zealand in the days after the alleged incident on a trip the Green Party says was pre-planned.
Always the same with these Green nincompoops .. run away and hide when it looks like the clappers are coming down or the spotlight level increases to scorch thy plumage intensity ;)
No doubt she is in Iran busy fighting the good fight for her fellow country women of Iran to come out from behind the veil. What a useless MP she is and has been, achieving absolutely zero in her years in Parliament. Just like the noisy Mexican Marxist Green MP that talks loud but achieves absolutely nothing.. If she has the slightest level of honour and decency, she will resign end never be seen again near Parliament. What a disgraceful person she is.
What a ridiculous rant?
Why is she a disgrace?
And forget the shoplifting allegation, I believe in innocent until proven guilty.
As NZTX says, surely there is an explanation as she is a believer. But you never know stranger things have happened. Who was that movie star that was caught shop lifting & had done so for years?
I doubt very much whether DT is posting at anyone's behest. I think it more likely that (like me) he regularly checks out a couple of Forums on the site as an adjunct to his interest in specific shares.
There are some people I regard as trolls, who have little or no interest in engaging in any reasonable discussion about anything of substance, and whose only interest is in 'owning the libs'. I try not to feed them, and a lot of the time I ignore posts which I regard as deliberately provocative or just plain silly. Sometimes, I respond to a poster I think is genuinely interested in engaging, and sometimes I get fooled. Sometimes I respond in anger or exasperation. I wish I didn't.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/golriz...ATecuPlibBLDCM
‘A second allegation of shoplifting has emerged involving embattled Green Party list MP Golriz Ghahraman, according to ZB Plus.
That incident allegedly took place at the same exclusive Ponsonby boutique weeks before the incident which is alleged to have occurred on December 23 and which is now the centre of a police investigation.
Ghahraman, who is the Green Party’s seventh-highest ranked list MP and holds the party’s justice portfolio, was revealed by ZB Plus on Wednesday to be facing an allegation of shoplifting thousands of dollars of high-end designer items from Scotties Boutique on Blake St in Ponsonby.
A Green Party spokesperson said on Wednesday that the party was aware of the allegations relating to the incident on December 23 and as a result, Ghahraman would be standing aside from all portfolio responsibilities “until the matter is resolved”.’
Never forget " the left is a lie " !!!
Only $ 15000 worth in one visit. Don't know what the fuss is all about :p
And the right used to be Franco, Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Petain, McCarthy, Lindberg, Marcos, Videla and Massera (Argentina), Noriega, and Pinochet among others.
Now it's Trump, Bolsonaro, Berlusconi, Orbahn, Duterte, Erdogan, Netanyahu etc.
You are welcome to them.
It would be a pretty safe bet, that the first time caught is not the first time taking a "5 finger discount".
Sounds like Golriz & the Greens tried to cover up but two thefts are one too many - especially when there could be more when they start reviewing CCTV etc.
And remember that Golriz embellished her human rights credentials before she was appointed as a Greens MP.
Oh this is hilarious.
Look out the window Logen Ninefingers, well those black silent choppers were there...
Lie in wait, you make it sound so cloak & dagger. I wish it was that exciting but it's probably closer to shooting fish in a barrel.
As I have said on many occasions, post something intelligent or pertinent even and you will get a reasonable response. Otherwise it's garbage in, garbage tossed out.
The CO-Leaders say they will talk to her on her return to NZ to clarify the matter. If they were taking this seriously, they would have talked to her already (I'm sure she can communicate from wherever she is) and sorted this matter. They are just trying to let it die without doing anything about it.
May be she is looking for refugee status where she is now.