Winner thanks for the reply; you seem to have deleted it?I enjoyed reading it and apologies re above.Im not suggesting you were any of them just that watching the s/p etc all the time much can be less then productive; the mkt is weighing machine etc etc. Yeah i too find it really helpful when i get out for some exercise and a roam in nature ; gives me more perspective about what really matters and puts making money in its place in the order of the quality of living. Think i will just await results now and spend less time watching and reading on here myself:0 cheers JT