I have to agree with that Ryman is better at everything than the others, they lead the pack BUT the only thing that I don’t agree with is the SP of Ryman, SUM is a better buy in terms of value. If I was just buying Shares to pass it on from generation to generation with never ever selling them for 250years, I would buy Ryman. But I think in my 25-30year timeframe, SUM will get me better returns.