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My humblest apologies! For some reason I thought it was a post from Daytr, who I am sure has been a banker - monopoly does count you know. As to John Key being my hero, wrong again - he is nowhere close enough to Donald Trump for me. I get irritated with the left when they try to portray him as a moron and overlook the circus full of clowns they have produced in recent years. My basic philosophy is one nation, one people with a complete cut out of all the racial handouts and privilidges that are in place to reinforce the idea that Maori - and others- are somehow deprived or less capable than the nasty Europeans. This is the worst form of racism.
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Craic, there are many people work for banks who do support roles such as your son if he does IT, but he works for a bank. John Key however was a banker working in the FX markets. If you did a modicum of research on Merrill Lynch you could see they were a bank and are now part of a larger bank.
I've never said Key is a moron, he's obviously quite smart, that doesn't mean he is working in the best interests of New Zealand as a whole however.
Nice rant about Māori, you would do well not to visit the East Cape or Northland. Worst form of racism huh. Now that takes the cake!
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I was a NZ Forest Service Inspector on the East Coast for several years and thirty years in the criminal justice system, all the time in close association with Maori. That concept of racism is not mine - It was the view of a world renowned expert, published in the Dominion years ago. It was a foundation principle for Winston Peters until he became infatuated with his own image.
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Agreed its not original as have heard it before.
However in the case of Māori or even women, when a particular sect has been oppressed or worse for generations, it does take imbalance to right the wrongs and bring the affected party onto a level playing field. I'm not saying every grant or benefit is a good idea, but they do need help to make generational change. Education is obviously one of the best tools, however what Europeans expect and Māori may want, can be too entirely different things due to cultural values and that should be respected.
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Having worked closely with people who are activists in this area for several decades and people at both the top and bottom of the pile, culture is being devised and revised as they go. I could list a hundred examples but I wont. It's exactly the same as Christianity. The original idea is published by apostles. It is then re-interpreted by later gurus and before you know it you have a dozen or so religions, umpteen cults. Why? Because some individual sees an advantage for him - a chance of power or elevation to high status. In Maoridom it is piles of money assets and status. I knew of one or two who when I assessed them forty years ago through the System, were of limited intelligence. And now they are there as elders with some grey hair and a carved stick. This is of course, a generalisation, but it is common enough to be a real hurdle. Before I am branded racist, I can say that I am a Irish Catholic Republican from several very poor Irish families. My maternal grandfather was illiterate - his son was a republican leader well educated, and served Many years as a senator in the Irish Senate.
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In Maoridom they owned piles of assets in fact they owned the entire country and in many cases their land was stolen or they were swindled, even as recently as WW11 by the government. So it's called compensation and so they should be. Perhapsif some had walled in Māori shoes for the last few generations they may get an understanding how poorly Māori have been treated. Its one thing I am very proud of as a NZer that we lead the way globally in this regard. I don't agree with every compensation claim & some are outright ridiculous and that tarnishes the legitimate claims. It obviously at some stage soon needs to come to an end so we can move on as a country. At that point, it might be a good time to change the flag.... ;-)
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Many of the claimants - the most vocal ones are at least half European and seem to think that I, an Irishman, and others like me, should be compensating the for something that some of their whanau did to others of their whanau donkeys years ago. I hate to say it but plunder, pillage and land grabbing was the way of life here long before any of us foreigners arrived. As a matter of interest, the very first Maori I spoke to in a pub in Lyttleton when I was still at sea, told me his name was Murphy ( the most common Irish Surname) His response to my surprise was to assure me that he wasn't really a Maori but a Tehnicolour Irishman.
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I love your anecdotes Craic, however the main issue is that they are not evidence or an accurate picture in the main.
Yep Māori were warriors & as such were never conquered. The only aboriginal people in the British Empire to have this claim to fame I believe.
They signed a Treaty and the spirit of that treaty wasn't honored and that is now being rectified & justly so.
You obviously have a very different view of Māori (evidence from your own posts) than I do, so we are probably never going to agree on what should or needs to be done. Nothing new there I that regard.
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The latest global climate change summit agreement just shows how out of touch National's policy is in regards sponsoring fossil fuel exploration around NZs coastline. Not only has been apparent anything discovered would be uneconomic, the success rate as been abysmal and its investing in an industry that will be wound down & shunned by investors and consumers more & more over time. Whilst wasting 10s of millions of tax payer funds on this folly they have cut the budget to DOC. National does not care about the environment they just see it as for its exploitation value.
Completely out of touch and living in an era that is swiftly coming to a close.
Governments should be looking to the future, not living in the past.
No vision and no clue.
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I have made some suggestions on New Forum rules which would vastly improve this thread.
"Elections thread is where behaviour gets most out of hand with a succession of very left wing commentators attempting to impose their point of view on everyone else by non-stop posting. I have counted and commented on where one of these people have posted 5 times in succession (several times) with no other poster getting a word in. They are also quick to call other posters fascists, racist any other hateful label they can think of. They are there every day without letting up in their attempt to impose a party line and politically correct thinking. I suggest rules that (a) no poster may post more than one post at a time (b) posters may not put up more than 2 posts per day on any one thread (c) posters can only post on alternate days (d) personal abuse of other posters is out including labeling them as fascist or racist.
cheers,
The Major "