IMHO Sums growth outstripping Ryman will be solely Dependant on the Aussie expansion success or not,if Ryman are successful in Aussie then the compounding factor comes into play which will drive growth exponentially but this comes with cautions because although success may appear just that don't forget that true running costs of operating in Aussie won't be known until the care centers are fully operational and with all the extra costs with compliances and higher pay rates and union involvement etc it will take a year or two to see if all of this will affect bottom line profit,if it does it may turn out that their NZ operation ends up subsidizing the Aussie one,but because of where Sum is at in its growth curve and with what its got lined up I'm predicting you'll get more return from Sum than Rym in 2014