Tauranga's Unelected Council Shambles

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/3501...ities-tauranga


‘Shameful’: Rage at proposed rent, fees increases of 240% for charities in Tauranga

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* A proposal by Tauranga commissioners has shocked residents, who this week protested against plans to hike rents and charges at not-for-profit businesses 240%

* Affected tenants include services to elderly, crime victims, at-risk youth and the sick, as well as art, sports and funerals

* A former mayor slated it as “shameful and undemocratic”, wants government to intervene.

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The plan includes increased charges for boat users, sports and dead people: the cost of cremation and burial at the council crematorium and cemeteries is going up, as is playing footy, bowls and tennis.

Commissioners seemed surprised at the amount of opposition. While chair Anne Tolley tapped along to a protester’s ukulele, she was tight lipped on whether she was persuaded.

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“Council is proposing a 243% increase in our current rent - when you add in proposed opex charges - it’s an increase of 297%. That would be the death knell. I don’t know what universe they’re in to think people can afford increases when we’re volunteers.”

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He said the proposals conflicted with the Local Government Act, which stipulates councils should “promote the social, economic, environmental and cultural wellbeing of communities”.

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Time to kick out these Unelected Commissioners who appear to have lost their way on what is required & in best interests of Tauranga.


What is being seen is nothing short of shameful IMO

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Originally Posted by nztx

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/3501...ities-tauranga



What is being seen is nothing short of shameful IMO

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I agree with you, but I have to say that I am not enormously surprised that Ann Tolley (ex Nat Cabinet) prioritises the interests of propety and business owners over those of needier and less powerful groups.

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Originally Posted by davflaws

I agree with you, but I have to say that I am not enormously surprised that Ann Tolley (ex Nat Cabinet) prioritises the interests of propety and business owners over those of needier and less powerful groups.

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Who was the Labour seatwarmer who oversaw the Commissioners continuing their tenure, and did nothing - Was it Miss Megawaters Reforms (with more c*ock-ups than hot dinners seen along the way), or another from the clueless huddle of incompetents dithering away ? ;)

https://www.stuff.co.nz/a/nz-news/35...ng-sold-dollar

Council wants $25 million for building sold for a dollar

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A High Court judge has rejected Tauranga City Council’s bid to recoup $25million over a failed car park building that the council sold for a dollar when serious defects were discovered.

The parking building on Harrington St was part of a plan by a previous council, to revitalise the city centre. It was set to be a transport hub for 550 cars and 250 bicycles in the CBD.

It wasn’t until construction had started that serious defects were discovered including thin foundations that would need reinforcing, as well as weaknesses in the floor, column and bracing in the building. At that stage council had already sunk $20m into the project.

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What a colossal Pluck up from this Administrator lead Local Body Shambles ... and look where their deviousness landed them ;)

"We sell stuffed Development to Lead Contractor for a buck, then turn around and try to sue their backsides off"

No wonder the "Tauranga CC Govt Administrators Lead Shambles" got parking-lotted over their antics ..

Some might be asking - Are they a trustworthy bunch after reading the article ;)

What do the good folk of Taurange think of their Local Council's antics on this one ? ;)

Presumably one way or another the poor captive Tauranga Ratepayers & other unfortunate peasants holed up in the BOP will wind up getting shafted for the chapters of incompetence & losses arising one way or another ;)

"Harrison Grierson Holdings Ltd, who designed the carpark building, and Constructure Auckland Ltd who was engaged to review the structural design refuted the council’s claims it was in “breach of a duty of care (negligence); breach of a statutory duty under the Building Act 2004; breach of a duty of care (negligent misstatement); breach of the Fair Trading Act 1986 and breach of contract.
The companies argued that a clause in the contract they signed with the council limit the amount they are liable for and the judge agreed."

So the two companies above who stuffed up get away with their incompetence atp due to a loophole/clause. The council have 20 days to submit a lesser amount by the looks. Im shuddering at the thought of some of the incompetent prior infighting councillors throwing their hat in the ring for the coming local elections.

Anne Tolley may have been a National Party MP and Minister but she subsequently sold out for the big $$$$ and became Mahuta’s creature.

‘Records of the four commissioners' remuneration and expenses showed Tolley was paid $241,200 for 134 days' work between July 2022 and June 2023, and claimed $34,850 in accommodation expenses’

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-pl...ion%20expenses.

She also went totally woke as well.

Maybe but they've achieved so much more then the largely incompetent, infighting selfish council we had. Its the best thing Mahuta did for Tauranga.

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Originally Posted by Joshuatree

Maybe but they've achieved so much more then the largely incompetent, infighting selfish council we had. Its the best thing Mahuta did for Tauranga.

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Destroying a city is quite an ‘achievement’. 😂

The Commissioners have bent Tauranga over and given it one hell of a rogering. Tolley and her hubby have bought a lovely property in Sussex in England, and she will be able to leave the appalling mess behind for others to attempt to clean up.

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Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers

Destroying a city is quite an ‘achievement’. 😂

The Commissioners have bent Tauranga over and given it one hell of a rogering. Tolley and her hubby have bought a lovely property in Sussex in England, and she will be able to leave the appalling mess behind for others to attempt to clean up.

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What appalling mess?????? All i see is huge improvements to the city with a few billions of Dollars of projects going in downtown Tauranga. I really enjoy biking Cameron road now and know it's much safer to do so. The commissioners are not responsible for the parking building btw.

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Originally Posted by Joshuatree

What appalling mess?????? All i see is huge improvements to the city with a few billions of Dollars of projects going in downtown Tauranga. I really enjoy biking Cameron road now and know it's much safer to do so. The commissioners are not responsible for the parking building btw.

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The commission noted that there is serious concern amongst our key strategic and community partners that the progress the city has made over the last two-plus years could be undone if the commitment needed to address Tauranga's identified issues is not maintained," they wrote.

"And that a return to a fully-elected, new and inexperienced council could result in dysfunctionality similar to that experienced prior to the commission's appointment."

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Originally Posted by Joshuatree

The commission noted that there is serious concern amongst our key strategic and community partners that the progress the city has made over the last two-plus years could be undone if the commitment needed to address Tauranga's identified issues is not maintained," they wrote.

"And that a return to a fully-elected, new and inexperienced council could result in dysfunctionality similar to that experienced prior to the commission's appointment."

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Protect their gravy train, at all costs.

Nope ,protect the momentum and progress that has been achieved.Im all for a hybrid approach with one commisioner on board with the elected councillors.The last thing we need is the same motley bunch of infighting self promoting councillors we had prior.Hopefully we get new blood with the right skill sets to work cohesively together.

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Originally Posted by Joshuatree

The commission noted that there is serious concern amongst our key strategic and community partners that the progress the city has made over the last two-plus years could be undone if the commitment needed to address Tauranga's identified issues is not maintained," they wrote.

"And that a return to a fully-elected, new and inexperienced council could result in dysfunctionality similar to that experienced prior to the commission's appointment."

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So they actually got round to naming individual trees in the empire after each of the unelected Quazi Govt Squatter appointees, while the trail of destruction was in progress ? ;)

Obviously it didn't get noticed further up the chain, because no new Damehoods or Knightings eventuated from trying to orchestrate commissioned change in a City that didn't want them around ;)

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Originally Posted by Joshuatree

Nope ,protect the momentum and progress that has been achieved.Im all for a hybrid approach with one commisioner on board with the elected councillors.The last thing we need is the same motley bunch of infighting self promoting councillors we had prior.Hopefully we get new blood with the right skill sets to work cohesively together.

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What a shameless opponent of democracy you are. Despite your hopes that the dictators reign of terror will continue, the good news is that it is send to end:

‘The effort to remain in power in Tauranga was rejected by Simeon Brown, who said democratic council elections and representation would return after the July 20 election.
“The people of Tauranga have been clear that they want to see a return to a fully elected and democratically accountable council. I am pleased to confirm that this will happen at the upcoming election in July,” Brown said.
“I want to confirm to the people of Tauranga, and the Commission, that there will be no hybrid model of governance following the July election,” Brown said.
“Nor will there be Crown observers. Tauranga will return to being a full democracy.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/3502...power-tauranga

I've seen what the prior council failed their city at ,I've seen what the commissioners achieved.Im hopeful of new blood,new councillors with the skill sets to achieve great things for our city.But it is fraught with risk ,especially if we get some of the wrong uns back.

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Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers

What a shameless opponent of democracy you are. Despite your hopes that the dictators reign of terror will continue, the good news is that it is send to end:

‘The effort to remain in power in Tauranga was rejected by Simeon Brown, who said democratic council elections and representation would return after the July 20 election.
“The people of Tauranga have been clear that they want to see a return to a fully elected and democratically accountable council. I am pleased to confirm that this will happen at the upcoming election in July,” Brown said.
“I want to confirm to the people of Tauranga, and the Commission, that there will be no hybrid model of governance following the July election,” Brown said.
“Nor will there be Crown observers. Tauranga will return to being a full democracy.”

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/3502...power-tauranga

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Yep good move by National to reinstate a democratically elected Council.
What JT is saying maybe true, I.e the appointed commissioners have performed better than previous councils, however democracy is the system we have, despite its weaknesses.

It's just a shame NAFT aren't applying the same democratic values to their own Governance. Appointing three ministers with unprecedented powers and at the same time watering down the rules of engagement of lobbyists.

This self appointed system is open to widespread abuse. We have already seen the influence the tobacco lobby has over the Government.
All the while the likes of Winston Peters is repeatedly threatening the media.

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Originally Posted by Joshuatree

I've seen what the prior council failed their city at ,I've seen what the commissioners achieved.Im hopeful of new blood,new councillors with the skill sets to achieve great things for our city.But it is fraught with risk ,especially if we get some of the wrong uns back.

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Is that you Shadrach?
So because a previous council in Tauranga was dysfunctional, you believe that all Councils going forward will be dysfunctional? You live in Tauranga, yet seem to have formed a view that the people that live here are inherently incapable of putting together a Council due to some sort of collective mental unsuitability. What a totally bizarre view-point: democracy is dangerous and must be replaced by dictatorship, as one Council was once ‘dysfunctional’.

Your comment about how you gad about on your bicycle and think everything is marvellous is very revealing. As you cycle gleefully past endless roadworks, orange cones as far as the eye can see, traffic jams, and struggling businesses you may be having the time of your life but 95% of the inhabitants of Tauranga hate the unelected Commissioners with a passion and want them gone. The sooner the planned $300+ million ‘civic precinct’ with its white elephant buildings - including a museum and ‘civic whare’ - is scrapped, the better. In fact, it should be the first act of the new Council. The new step is reinstate parking areas and attract real businesses back into the city. The ‘civic precinct’ is nothing more than a massive rort & vanity project at the expensive of suffering ratepayers.

You sound like one of the useless troublemaking prior counsellors who was dumped.
If so I pray you never get another chance.
It also looks like you're a grumpy person who can't be flexible or cope with change. democracy failed us previously.
I'm hoping for new blood with a hybrid system with one commisioner onboard,this reduces risk of another stuff up.
You're a negative cone head misinforming by all means keep counting👍

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Originally Posted by Joshuatree

You sound like one of the useless troublemaking prior counsellors who was dumped.
If so I pray you never get another chance.
It also looks like you're a grumpy person who can't be flexible or cope with change. democracy failed us previously.
I'm hoping for new blood with a hybrid system with one commisioner onboard,this reduces risk of another stuff up.
You're a negative cone head misinforming by all means keep counting👍

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No, we just restore full democracy ASAP.

Warts and all.

Too risky atp,maybe the next one if they prove themselves in this term.