Bernie would make a good Presidents .......and take the Democrats back to there roots
Was last week’s little do the beginning of his 2020 campaign
https://sandersinstitutegathering.org
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Bernie would make a good Presidents .......and take the Democrats back to there roots
Was last week’s little do the beginning of his 2020 campaign
https://sandersinstitutegathering.org
To answer the original question with another: Do the campaigns ever stop?
;)
Because she has been outed, even by Wapo as a fake.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.c9c6bd744ae4
Sen. Elizabeth Warren said Tuesday that she was sorry that she identified herself as a Native American for almost two decades, reflecting her ongoing struggle to quiet a controversy that continues to haunt her as she prepares to formally announce a presidential bid.
Her comments more fully explain the regret she expressed last week to the chief of the Cherokee Nation, the first time she’s said she was sorry for claiming American Indian heritage.
Bernie has a small chance but I do not think he will get there. The Dems will do what they did to him last time.
Odds currently to be Dem primary winner are:
Harris 4
Orouke 7
Biden 7
Sanders 15
Warren 20
Klobucher 15
Gillibrand 20
Brown 15
Gabbard 23
Clinton 40
As you can see its a pretty open field and plenty of others probably going to put hat into ring.
So - she appologized. For something she said which might have been misunderstood but hurt nobody.
Just remind me - when did the big bully and liar sitting in the white house appologize for any of his lies and his hate speach which does actually does hurt people? Trump is revolting and directly responsible for hate crimes and the corrosion of democratic institutions.
No point in analysing at this stage the odds. The crook who is sitting currently in the white house was 22 months prior ot the elections not even in the race.
More interesting is - will the GoP go with some other candidates into the primaries? I guess while it appears Trump is owning the party ... there still must be somewhere a decent human being on the conservative side who sees the crook for what he is?
The rich are getting richer in America. Asset inflation has meant that a greater percentage of equity is now concentrated in the top 1% whilst middle incomes are stagnating. Are employee share ownership plans on the agenda in the USA? Does it help explain the rise of populism and the extreme right?
How America’s 1% came to dominate equity ownership
https://www.ft.com/content/2501e154-4789-11ea-aeb3-955839e06441
At this point I don't think it matters who the Democrats nominee is.
Still there is a long way to go, and a deep recession would play into the hands of the socialists.
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As someone on another board mentioned:
"Two really old NY Jews, who are not Democrats are the top 2 primary candidates, in a Democrat party who hates old people and Jews."
What a time to be alive!
What a weird comment coming from a stauch supporter of the biggest liar and crook ever dwelling in the white house ... but then projection of their attributes onto other people seems to be one of the strongest traits of Trump and many of this supporters.
I wouldn't know how a party can "hate" at all, only people can do that.
Do you mean to say that you are hating old people and Jews?
Tell us more ...
I love old people and I love Jews. In fact I have family members living in Israel. But that aside, its just ironic that the party that does not like Jews and has a thing about old white men and entitlement and privilege, well the two front runners and contenders for their top position are both very old, very white and of Jewish origin. You just can't make that kind of stuff up.
You just have.
Under the circumstances I think that the current situation is about correct for this round of the mid terms , not what everyone wanted but thems are the facts !
It hardly matters if Biden achieves anything else, but lets not forget his greatest achievement & I mean this sincerely & one for which the world should be forever grateful to Biden esp at his age, was blocking Trump from a second term. (Biden was the oldest person to become President at 78 & will be 80 in less than 2 weeks time, 20th Nov ).
Though republicans outperformed expectations in 2020 .
Leave a sh*tstorm in most areas.. still be competitive.
Tim Ryan now that Ohio tossed him out for a trumpist loser should become the vice president.
A Biden-ryan ticket at least in 2024 will secure the presidency for democrats even if Biden dies (which is a risk today unfortunately).
A thoughtful piece by CNN's political analyst Julian Zelizer, on Biden, titled "The most underestimated President in recent history".
Might modify your opinion.
In 2020 Trump not only won more votes than he did in 2016, but also expanded his base.
Since WW2 most Presidents have successfully won re-election.
But despite this, Trump was unable to stave off Biden who not only defeated a group of younger & more exciting candidates in the 2020 Democratic Primaries, but at the age of 76 became the oldest person to become President.
That's no trivial achievement.
Since loosing to Biden in 2020, & The Capital Insurrection, Trump's been the architect of his own downfall esp it appears in the mid-terms.
Whereas Rupert Murdoch's media empire (Fox News, Wall Street Journal, New York Post, The Australian, The Times) heavily backed Trump in 2020 & until the recent mid-terms, it seems he's now seen as yesterday's man & Murdoch's backing Florida's Ron DeSantis as the new leader for the Republicans.
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/10/o...zer/index.html
Defeating someone as polarising and loathed as Trump is hardly an accomplishment. I've said it repeatedly; the fact that the US system can come up with such terrible nominees from both sides shows something is rotten in the state of Denmark. Most likely far too much corporate influence on both sides.
You lot are in fairy tale lands LOL... what a laugh.... you guys, its just pip squeak chatter .... legit...
....just tell me one thing biden did good in his term?
Bye bye Fornicator Trump.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/thi...IP2TLKZMBJ33E/
The difference between President's Biden & Putin is Biden's opponent is not yet in jail.
Boop boop de do
Marilyn
I'm not sure I can listen to Trump for 90 minutes saying how great he is whilst making derogatory comments about everyone else.
(As I write, I realized its the same modus operandi as one of the posters on here!)
No live audience, candidates muted whilst the other is speaking. Amazing that they have to do this just because of Trumps record of rude behaviour. I remember him stalking Clinton around the stage like a predator in 2016.
Anyone know how to view it in NZ?
They seem attached to celebrities like a form of OCD.
Trump, Elon musk, steve jobs, obama (just to be equal). They are worshipped to the extent of saints and downsides are ignored.
This mindset is obviously a problem because it can lead to someone like Hitler in the worst case, though trump is nowhere near as methodical, charasmatic and tends to ruin everything so let's hope his team is the same.
We can do worse than Jacinda (she got us data centres, Aussie citizenship for kiwis and trade deals).
An international diplomacy star compared to those who have "good conversations" but nothing delivered.
Trump will out flank Joey.
All he has to do is to get a war veteran to appear in the wings with his golf trundler, and Joey will shuffle off the set mid debate to have a chat!
Knows his priorities does our Joey.
Trump would be a war veteran if he didn't have those unfortuante bone spurs.
You can watch on youtube if you want to see the spectacle of how far america has fallen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v-8wJkmwBY
Oh dear.
23 minutes in, and Joey having many senior moments.
A disconnect between brain and mouth.
Stand down now Joey, while you can do so with dignity.
Is it too late to bring in Jacinda?
Who will 'replace' Biden before the conventions
WTF USA how can these two be the leaders of the free world Dumb Vs Dumber ...like 10yr kids
Been watching a few clips of Nixon interviews where have the intellectual leaders gone they can speak more than just we are the BEST ever bah bah BS ???
NIXON Vs KENNEDY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9cdRpE4KKc
CARTER Vs REGAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8YxFc_1b_0
You're the worst president... no you're the worst president..
Trump: that wasn't real and didn't happen (50+ videos available of it happening).
Democratic team - biden has a cold today in the middle of summer.
Ah, but a delusional Joey thinks he can give Trumpet a hiding in golf, reckons he couldn't carry a golf bag.
The American public wanted to know that, and feel reassured now?
A lot of talk on war mongering by both.
Should we be afraid?
I just don't get it how these two guys the leaders of the major parties make no sense I wouldn't elect them to the president of my local Golf Club..
Yet I just watched two Geriatrics one a failing CONman Vs one that should be in a retirement 24 hour care ....need a limit on age
Going by the CNN commentators who across the Board agreed that Biden is not up to it, and them alluding that there were conversations happening across the Democrat base from the minute Biden walked out, it would appear that the way is being prepared for an alternative candidate. That might be Trump's undoing. Let's all hope it's someone competent and not just a mouthpiece.
One of the few times I have seen posters on here from both the left and the right agree on something, that being neither candidate is fit to be president.
Would I rather have an aged man who has small lapses over a consistent liar, definitely the former, although 4 years is a long time in an 83 year oldest future life & health span.
Can the Dems actually replace Biden?
I assume so but do they have the cahones?
The Republicans obviously don't as they are scared sh1tless of Trump.
A compromise for the democrats would be to replace Kamala Harris (and you can trust the DNC to come up with half-baked solutions like this and lose).
Though you need to actually debate trump, so full replacement is probably the only option.
When Kamala Harris was asked to comment on Joey's performance, she was so one eyed and deflective, l don't think she even wanted to see that Trump was there!
But she did latch onto his comments on abortion.
Old man vs Con Man.
What an indictment on the US as a country! https://chappatte.com/sites/default/...?itok=m5unIYrR
I think only one thing can be said for certain after that debate.
Biden is absolutely f*cked.
This is a good article on the process of replacing Biden. Effectively he would have to agree to withdraw, so it seems unlikely to me, unless perhaps someone like Obama whispers in his ear or perhaps Biden's own wife.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...lot-rcna159374
Well then, Kamala comes into the picture either within the next six months or if Biden wins.
She will polarise the country as much as Trump.
Yeah they need to get him to stand down. That was horrible to watch.
I hope his political opponents did not take any joy from that. Watching an elderly man stumble like that in front of the world. I felt really sad watching Biden.
But Biden must not be POTUS again. He is too old and there is a lot going on in the world right now that requires a strong US President.
Kamala would not be able to win.
A yankee friend of mine has suggested Gavin Newsom. Governor of California I think… don’t know much about him but I think he has been touted as a possible replacement.
In watching trump speak(dial it down mate!!) ...Biden frail out of touch
Instead of Trump boasting about how he's the best and how the USA was perfect under his leadership, I wish he could be more real and connect with people on a more honest level by toning down his attitude...
Show he has matured and can pull his head in.....but no
At 78 he will mature.
Common JB you ask too much.
The guy doesn't have an ethical bone in his body.
Ironically in 2016 the Dems had a very competent candidate in Hillary. But America and some on here aren't ready for a strong articulate woman.
Hillary won the popular vote, despite the desperate email scandal that miraculously & anonymously landed in the FBI's lap just weeks before the election.
Trump only became president due to the archaic electoral college system.
California has gone to hell under Newsom. He's a vacuous mouth piece type in the mould of Trudeau and Ardern. The tide is going out on these types worldwide, so while Newsom might present better than Biden, people have seen California and the hell-hole it's city centres have become, from LA to San Diego to San Francisco.
Not strictly true, the popular vote doesn't elect the President, the Electoral College elects the President and there are precedents where the Electoral College essentially overrode the popular vote. That's what happened in 2016, and had happened only three times previously in US political history.
It's expensive sure. But Newsom doesn't control federal drug policies, inter-state migration or social services so naturally you get homeless drug addicts everywhere which seems to be much more of an American problem rather than something that applies to other countries. They go the california because it's a decent place to live and many other americans live there.
In a free market you can't build a wall to keep them out either unless it's a prison (the usual red state solution).
I haven't really kept up with Sunak. Covid roosters roosting will be a part, but I think it's deeper than that. Europe has had enough. They are seeing their various cultures disappear under the weight of refugees and immigration. Despite your insistence that Brexit was a horrible mistake, the Euro elections would suggest the continent might be envious of what the UK achieved in getting out. Macron has panicked.
The pendulum has swung. The Left have over reached and the swing will be long and hard. Italy led the way. Argentina followed. Canada and probably France imminent.
Rousing speech from Biden at rally.
Sounded good…electable - a shame he was only 20% of that at the debate.
It seems like most elderly he has really good days and then really bad days.
The issue of refugees and how to handle them is a big strain, on the EU and individual frontline countries. It often gets confused with freedom of movement too.
Only 30% of Brits according to yougov polling think that Brexit was the right thing to have done. Nationalist parties in other EU countries no longer want to see their nations leave the EU. They prefer lobbying for reform from within. Le Pen’s French Front National stopped promoting a Frexit several years ago.
You probably aren’t aware of much about Sunak, because the UK have been changing PMs whenever calamities mount up…so three PMs since 2019 - the last election. Four PMs within five years. The UK left the EU in Jan 2020. The right wing government in the UK has been beset by problems other than Brexit, including health system failures, economic and trade decline, Ministerial scandals and conflicts of interest, etc. Brexit dishonesty, stress and incompetence has been a big factor though.
It would be interesting to see how a left wing Starmer gets on with a second term Trump. It will strain the so-called special relationship with the UK. He will need to work hard to keep Trump connected with Europe. Much was made of Boris Johnson’s similarity with Donald Trump as fellow disrupters.
As has been said many a time, a population of 350 million or so and that is the best 2 they can come up with, or the 2 that want to stand and have enough support within their respective parties
In the US they are liberal on prescribing drugs. If you ask for it they will give it to you.
When I was on a benzo for a brief time I had no inhibition at all to stop at stop signs when driving. Scary stuff.
That's it then, he's on the benzo , because he doesn't know when to stop.
"Mr President, it's time to nuke North Korea, you know, NK on your keypad"
"OK then, bombs away, oops, l pushed NZ by mistake, too late to stop, goddammit!!!"
"Mr President, we will find a way to blame Trump"
There are informal controls as we saw during the Trump admin about nukes.
I don't think even american doctors are silly enough to prescribe them to an elderly patient.
Anyway, GOLF was the winner on the night...
Poor old Joey will be feeling a bit under the weather since the debate, but Trump will reassure him, any port in a Stormy!
I think the women members would be offended by your comments. https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx
Only those candidates who are independently wealthy or have policies that appeal to wealthy donors have any chance of selection and/or running for President. Becoming President of the USA costs mega bucks.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ng-since-1979/
US is a fxxked up country in structural decline.
Like all the empires in the past built on the subjugation and exploitation of others through the use of force, the US will have its inevitable collapse.
The US has of course taken the exploitation of other countries one step further by flooding the world with unlimited supply of US$ to support its own standard of living at the expense of others. The beginning of the end of the domination of the US$ has started.
This Presidential election of the old man vs the con man is the surest sign yet of the inflexion point.
Trump is a piece of shxt and for the Republicans to support him speaks volume of the sordid and declining state of US.
The hypocrisy of introducing the Ten Commandments to schools yet at the same time endorsing Trump who fornicated a porn star while his wife was in hospital, sexually assaulted women and lied & lies & stole.