The Betrayal of NZ by Ardern, Hipkins and Labour

An excellent summary of what Ardern & the Labour Party have been up to and why the majority of NZers have decided enough.

Up to the new government to not only halt all the hidden agendas of Labour & the Greens, but to actively reverse and dismantle the racist and divisive structures put in place by stealth with no transparency & accountability to NZers.

https://www.interest.co.nz/public-po...g-when-parties

The highly controversial report He Puapua, for example, proposed wholesale constitutional reform – to a degree which would make the New Zealand of today unrecognisable. Far from being conceived as the starting point for a wide-ranging public debate, the report was prepared in secret and only released by the Sixth Labour Government after it was leaked to the Act Party.


Although disavowed by Jacinda Ardern, sharp-eyed members of the public recognised a remarkable degree of congruence between He Puapua’s recommendations and government policy. They were told, none too politely, that they were seeing things.


But, those taking a close interest in public policy noticed something else: the deep reluctance of Labour ministers to engage in the sort of head-to-head ideological confrontations that were common during the unrolling of Rogernomics.

After 2020, all attempts to debate the future of Te Tiriti o Waitangi and Māori-Pakeha relations tended to be framed as manifestations of racist, white supremacist, prejudice.

Tellingly, a long-delayed discussion document on Treaty-based constitutional reform was deemed too inflammatory for public release by Māori Development Minister Willie Jackson – it still hasn’t seen the light of day.

Even more concerning was the mainstream news media’s extreme reluctance to entertain any debate over the many contentious issues – “co-governance” in particular – that were growing out of the Crown’s newfound commitment to “indigenisation” and “decolonisation”. Increasingly, voters came to understand that there were topics which could not be questioned or debated without “consequences”.

Around this new ideology they further observed the erection of a complex array of protective barriers. Those who attempted to breach these barriers were accused of spreading “misinformation, disinformation and malinformation” or, worse still, of deploying “hate speech”.

Thirty-three years later, voters threw their support behind National, Act and NZ First with much higher hopes of achieving something positive. While freezing works could not be re-opened or privatised state enterprises repurchased, the indigenisation and de-colonisation of New Zealand society can still be halted at the stroke of a ministerial pen.

It is to be hoped that New Zealand’s new Prime Minister, Christopher Luxon, understands this. That among all the other things he has to do, he must not fail to honour the expectation of his conservative voters to defend democratic “New Zealand” from Te Tiriti-Centric “Aotearoa”.

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Originally Posted by Balance

An excellent summary of what Ardern & the Labour Party have been up to and why the majority of NZers have decided enough.

Up to the new government to not only halt all the hidden agendas of Labour & the Greens, but to actively reverse and dismantle the racist and divisive structures put in place by stealth with no transparency & accountability to NZers.

https://www.interest.co.nz/public-po...g-when-parties

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The problem with populism is it all about pandering to grievances, not solutions. It fosters division, not unity.
Balance is still talking about Labour who are out of government now.

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2210/S00004/on-why-new-zealand-isnt-heavily-taxed.htm

We also happen to be living in an era of right wing populism. Having an integrated persona and a coherent policy platform is not seen as much of a political priority. So long as the candidate can regularly land somewhere along the spectrum of existing grievances confirmed by focus group research, the inconsistency between those landing points won’t be much of a disqualifying factor.
The problem for the rest of us with the micro-targeting of grievances by National and ACT, is that this strategy to get elected does not include sustainable alternatives.

Yup - I am still talking about Labour because the damage they have done to NZ is going to take decades to repair.

And btw, why were you so tolerant of them (Labour) blaming all their failures in the last 6 years on previous administrations? Why was that ok with you?

As per Chris Trotter’s piece above, let’s hope National/ACT act decisively on the mandate for change given to them in this election and cut out the cancerous divisive and racist policies put in place by Ardern, Hipkins and Labour.

That’s why it is important to remind NZers what Labour had been about until the cancer is removed.

You savvy, moka?

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Originally Posted by moka

The problem with populism is it all about pandering to grievances, not solutions. It fosters division, not unity.
Balance is still talking about Labour who are out of government now.

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2210/S00004/on-why-new-zealand-isnt-heavily-taxed.htm

We also happen to be living in an era of right wing populism. Having an integrated persona and a coherent policy platform is not seen as much of a political priority. So long as the candidate can regularly land somewhere along the spectrum of existing grievances confirmed by focus group research, the inconsistency between those landing points won’t be much of a disqualifying factor.
The problem for the rest of us with the micro-targeting of grievances by National and ACT, is that this strategy to get elected does not include sustainable alternatives.

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I guess we have gone from Left with populism to Right wing populism right?

Six wasted years thanks to Winston !

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Originally Posted by Balance

Yup - I am still talking about Labour because the damage they have done to NZ is going to take decades to repair.

And btw, why were you so tolerant of them (Labour) blaming all their failures in the last 6 years on previous administrations? Why was that ok with you?

As per Chris Trotter’s piece above, let’s hope National/ACT act decisively on the mandate for change given to them in this election and cut out the cancerous divisive and racist policies put in place by Ardern, Hipkins and Labour.

That’s why it is important to remind NZers what Labour had been about until the cancer is removed.

You savvy, moka?

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I’m very savvy Balance, and thank you for asking.
We have had a change of government, so no longer Labour = democracy, but what hasn’t changed is the demonisation of the Labour party on these threads by some people, as demonstrated by the title of this thread: The Betrayal of NZ by Ardern, Hipkins and Labour.
So what we see displayed here is populism, not democracy. Populism is the politics of resentment.

Ray Dalio talking about populism. We can learn from history about what happens when populism flourishes.

27:19 So in the 1930 to 1945 period four democracies chose to be autocratic leaders that was Germany, Italy, Spain and Japan because the conflict became so great and each side had populism. By populism I mean not willingness to accept losing, they believe the system isn't fair and that they want to fight, find the people who will fight and win for them, and when they have those people who will fight and win for them you have irreconcilable differences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jVJMD9xNUk
Ray Dalio on the Great Wealth Transfer and Rising Internal Conflict

Populism = Ardern, Hipkins and Labour blaming the previous National government for everything wrong in NZ for the last 6 years.

Thanks, moka for making the connection.

Why it is so important to keep reminding NZers even 9 years from now how this last Labour government screwed up NZ for all NZers.

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Originally Posted by whatsup

Six wasted years thanks to Winston !

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Don't blame Winston, blame Labour, Maori and Dame Ardern. (silly, naive and malicious)

NZ is as close as you would ever want to come to some serious civil strife.

Dame Ardern is no leader. True leaders know how to unite people, not divide, like she has done.

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Originally Posted by moka

So what we see displayed here is populism, not democracy. Populism is the politics of resentment.

Ray Dalio talking about populism. We can learn from history about what happens when populism flourishes.

27:19 So in the 1930 to 1945 period four democracies chose to be autocratic leaders that was Germany, Italy, Spain and Japan because the conflict became so great and each side had populism. By populism I mean not willingness to accept losing, they believe the system isn't fair and that they want to fight, find the people who will fight and win for them, and when they have those people who will fight and win for them you have irreconcilable differences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jVJMD9xNUk
Ray Dalio on the Great Wealth Transfer and Rising Internal Conflict

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Sounds just like Dame Ardern and the rest of the woke silly crowd of the last few years. All theory, no practise with the classic "victim" mentality thrown in.

So you're going to continue to ram this down our throats forever, rather than focus on the new government you wanted, and rooted for, for the last god knows how many months?

You are really asking to have a stroke or heart attack Balance. Fortunately I won't be here to see it, because the temptation to say "I told you so" would be bloody hard to resist.

The past is gone. The future hasn't arrived yet. All any of us have is the present. That's where you need to be living.

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Originally Posted by Balance

Populism = Ardern, Hipkins and Labour blaming the previous National government for everything wrong in NZ for the last 6 years.

Thanks, moka for making the connection.

Why it is so important to keep reminding NZers even 9 years from now how this last Labour government screwed up NZ for all NZers.

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