We are a responsible country doing the right humane thing for a woman and her two childen.Aus is not, it has totally abandoned them, thats not a modern , civilised country. thats callous and cruelty.
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We are a responsible country doing the right humane thing for a woman and her two childen.Aus is not, it has totally abandoned them, thats not a modern , civilised country. thats callous and cruelty.
How if that makes them stateless?
In 2006 NZ became a party to the 1961 Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness
We did so with the following statement
Declaration:
"[New Zealand] declares that in accordance with
paragraph 3 of article 8 of the Convention New Zealand
retains the right to deprive a person of his New Zealand
citizenship on the following grounds, being grounds
existing in New Zealand law at the present time:
the person has, while a New Zealand citizen and while
of or over the age of 18 years and of full capacity,
(a) Acquired the nationality or citizenship of another
country by any voluntary and formal act, and acted in a
manner that is contrary to the interests of New Zealand; or
(b) Voluntarily exercised any of the privileges or
performed any of the duties of another nationality or
citizenship possessed by him in a manner that is contrary
to the interests of New Zealand."
So we could have dropped her as a citizen if we had done it before Aussie but it is now too late under our law.
Australia never signed - they don't give a toss really.
She was given those assurances - they mean nothing but just what do you think she (or Judith) can do about it?
Let's face it, you, I and the Govt know that Aussie will discuss it but the discussion will go something like - "we are doing it, discussion over, get stuffed if you don't like it".
Before we (mostly) all rush to what seems to be the default outrage setting, just a quick cursory check shows there are 2 innocent vulnerable children being overlooked here, a 2year old and a 5 year old who are both NZ citizens.
I don't believe any decent person here would refuse to offer them refuge from the extreme trauma & suffering they must have experienced, even if they weren't NZ citizens.
So before we rage at the govt over another difficult & complex issue, we have a moral & a legal obligation to take this family back & its a real shame Judith Collins is so desperate she has to appeal to & exploit the worst traits in human nature, fear, anger, selfishness & ignorance to shore up her fading leadership. This is not the National Party of Bill English or John Key.
Further it appears the young mother a 19 year old at the time, on seeing first hand the reality didn't match the seductive recruitment propaganda, may have had second thoughts and attempted to pull out of crossing into Syria & return home, but was stymied by the group she was travelling with. I can understand that with a group as brutal as ISIS.
And really does anyone believe she & her 2 children pose more of a threat to NZ'ers than some of the anti-vaxers we find here or the gang members being sent back from Aussie ?
I don't think so.
Save your outrage for the anti-vaxers, & the deeply cynical Aussie politicians who are abusing NZ'ers human rights by deporting them.
https://www.govt.nz/browse/passports...z-citizenship/
Nothing to stop NZ from revoking her citizenship.
She will not be eligible to be granted a passport, nor will she likely be granted access to any foreign country even if she possessed a passport.
Her life and that of her Syrian born (as I understand it) children in NZ will be tightly controlled by our security services.
Poor wee Judith - people are being 'malicious and nasty' to her.
Pots and kettles come to mind.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...-williams.html
You need to go back to school for comprehension - she was referring to the malicious & nasty way her comments about Poto ‘I represent South Auckland Maori & Pacific Islanders’ Williams were misrepresented. Her comments - not her, savvy?
As for Poto’s daughter concerned about her mother’s safety, I have yet to read anything more pathetic from a politician attempting to milk sympathy & attention even while she (Poto) showed she could not care less about police safety & gun violence.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political...-poto-williams
Judith makes a big noise about the money spent on the programme for drug addiction - supposedly paying the Mongrol Mob when National did the same.
She got a roasting in question time yesterday.
She is just so useless! Why can't we have a real opposition? Democracy needs a functioning opposition.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...d-2-reach.html
Blimy, the disfunction & shambles continues, no accountability, no reset, no lessons learnt, no refresh, what a disappointment.
Dinosaurs, what else can you say.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...-in-goodfellow