VGL - Vista Group.

Least it was only a half year result ...and with the bad news out of the way and after today’s reaction the share price will no doubt hang around 4 bucks until early next year

The talk of slowing growth seems to have come out of the blue ...all seemed honky dory a few months ago at the AGM in July

Disclosure problems? ....poor communication to market?


Nothing worse than pissing off the market ....market hates surprises ...might take a while to regain any semblance of credibility

yes , wouldnve thought continuous disclosure .... etc

was way overpriced at $6 though

even under $4 the p/e is pretty crazy.

Been studying up

They say — Over time we will be targeting Vista Group revenue growth in the region of 13% to 18% as the business grows (excluding any acquisitions)

13% to 18% doesn’t seem much in light of the hype etc ...no wonder share price plummeting

nasty close on the lows

Brutal day...close to a 30% drop...yikes....:ohmy:

ASX just had a notice which says that Will Palmer -Movio CEO purchased 125,000 shares today at $3.90...today( in NZX)

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ASX just had a notice which says that Will Palmer -Movio CEO purchased 125,000 shares today at $3.90...today( in NZX)

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hmmmm bit cheeky after selling some @$5+ earlier this year aye? ;)

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hmmmm bit cheeky after selling some @$5+ earlier this year aye? ;)

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Also the timing of the notice is also a surprise... Never saw a notice coming out on the day of the purchase...(may be it has happened before)...NZX still hasn't released it yet.

May be to instill faith through this purchase after some serious battering... who knows??

Too tempting not to take a punt at this now so I grabbed a bit at today's closing sp. Might catch some more if it goes another 50 cents or lower 2morrow. I'm a holder now and even mentioned then that I will not be a holder of this stock. Guess you should never say never. I blame the falling Market for my gut feel action :cool:

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I suspect the fund I mentioned before Investment Services Group have been gradually reducing their stake this year going down from 8.69% to 6.84% and recently to 5.72%. As at current notice they hold 9.5mln shares under their belt. I'm picking they might go under 5% threshold soon if they continue their intentions of offloading.

So, it probably is wise to wait before doubling down or planning to buy in, just my 2c worth.

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That was prescient, the day after ... 'boom' on massive volume. Look at the course of trades for the day and the big numbers changing hands and the crossings at close. Someone big wants out.

I have this bit of software that goes through the days share price movements and flags up things that have moved a lot.

Unfortunately today it put VGL on the list.

In days of old when I held this stock and hardly anyone else talked about it I was always baffled by the ridiculous price it traded at to the extent that I eventually sold it for something more comfortable.

So three years later and what do I see?
A company achieving world domination but not making much money doing it.
A company still trading at a ridiculous price, even after the collapse today.

Why anyone would think of buying into this now is beyond me.

Enlighten me :mellow:

Disc:
Currently go to the movies once a week on 9 ringgit days.

Last week watched:

Makmum [ :) :) :) :mellow: ]

http://www.cinema.com.my/images/movi...kmum00_450.jpg



This week praying that I can find something better than:

The Art Of Racing In the Rain: [ :ohmy: :ohmy: ]

http://www.cinema.com.my/images/movi...rain00_450.jpg

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In days of old when I held this stock and hardly anyone else talked about it I was always baffled by the ridiculous price it traded at to the extent that I eventually sold it for something more comfortable.

So three years later and what do I see?
A company achieving world domination but not making much money doing it.
A company still trading at a ridiculous price, even after the collapse today.

Why anyone would think of buying into this now is beyond me.

Enlighten me :mellow:

Disc:
Currently go to the movies once a week on 9 ringgit days.

Last week watched:

Makmum [ :) :) :) :mellow: ]

http://www.cinema.com.my/images/movi...kmum00_450.jpg



This week praying that I can find something better than:

The Art Of Racing In the Rain: [ :ohmy: :ohmy: ]

http://www.cinema.com.my/images/movi...rain00_450.jpg

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Probably the same reason why you bought it then in the days of old and would sell for the same reason you did. We will see and as I said before, it was always been gut feel that guided me on my punts when a stock is down.

disc: would only go to the moviehouse on a blockbuster show as I get most of my sports/movies on free streaming

Recent presentation Vista were raving about their revenue growth of 29% pa (CAGR over 4 years to 2018)

Yesterday they said they were targeting ‘over time’ 13% to 18% pa revenue growth


That’s a massive drop in expectations ...no wonder a massive market response yesterday.

pe over 50 is high for a company with declining growth forecasts

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I have this bit of software that goes through the days share price movements and flags up things that have moved a lot.

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LOL. Clever you. I've no software, the daily NZX top gainers/decliners list does the trick for me. ;)

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So three years later and what do I see?
A company achieving world domination but not making much money doing it.
A company still trading at a ridiculous price, even after the collapse today.
Enlighten me :mellow:

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I doubt I can enlighten someone with your skills (or software!?) and I'm not here to defend VGL, however the same criticism/comments have been made in the past about many of the current 'success' stories, e.g. XRO, ATM to name just two recent ones.

Small to mid cap companies which have a high risk component offer immense returns if they do manage to turn their "world domination" into profitability and become 'large cap companies'.

This week VGL alarmed the market with their announcements of slower growth and they have been punished as a result. I suspect they are being very conservative in their projections and will continue to watch their progress with interest.

Keep watching your movies SL and maybe VGL will have a happy ending!

Insiders still buying

Good sign

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Insiders still buying

Good sign

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Yep “ no worries” eh..... :D

Getting Hammered at the moment!

Still going down..... thought the bottom was in at $4.00, obviously not!