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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Suppose everybody is winning and making heaps then
    That I would very much doubt.
    We must remember "when you sup with the devil you need a long spoon."

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    Ben Graham reckons the right PE for a no growth company is 8.5 and guess what, that's about where the company is now after the major SP correction. I wouldn't trust this management so wouldn't be interested at any price. It would appear that one of the prerequisites to conning the public and getting a great IPO price is to simply talk about growth plans regardless of whether they are actually feasible, credible or realistic or not, (Tegal another good example) and the gullible public lap it up like lambs to the slaughter. A fine example of another bit of tough old mutton dressed up as fresh spring lamb. Some of us warned about this old mutt right from the outset and also the old tough inedible Tegal bird.
    Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    A fine example of another bit of tough old mutton dressed up as fresh spring lamb. Some of us warned about this old mutt right from the outset and also the old tough inedible Tegal bird.
    Nice jump for this one recently. Moved from under 50c a few days ago to close over 60c for the first time in a few months. Is this just a short-term spike before it returns to the low 50's (or even lower) again. Is it the start of a return to previous higher levels and the tough old mutton will give some tasty meals for those prepared to take the risk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrunch View Post
    Nice jump for this one recently. Moved from under 50c a few days ago to close over 60c for the first time in a few months. Is this just a short-term spike before it returns to the low 50's (or even lower) again. Is it the start of a return to previous higher levels and the tough old mutton will give some tasty meals for those prepared to take the risk?
    I suppose if you throw it in the pot long enough and stew it, it might be edible but I think there are SUM far tastier opportunities.
    Keep in mind the vast amount of intangibles on the balance sheet, all predicated upon the assumption that the centers acquired would generate far more profit than they currently are...you think that might undermine the real value of those intangible assets more than just a bit !
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    I love it when companies have ‘a year of transition’ ....all bodes well for the future

    Bit miffed with Jacinda not helping them out more

    And they reported a LOSS but looking forward normalised is OK and a divie coming

    http://nzx-prod-s7fsd7f98s.s3-websit...554/279962.pdf
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    Inside gossip from the coal face.
    Morale never been lower at Evolve centers.
    Cost cutting taken to even more extreme level's.
    Manipulation of qualified staffing level's by sending qualified caregivers to center's under audit and later reassigning them back to their regular center's when audit finished, (effectively gaming the system that's established in terms of qualified to unqualified staff minimum legislated ratio's)
    Increasing use of minimum wage employees with inadequate training and inadequate supervision

    Just what the hound heard by pricking up his ears at a recent family lunch.
    Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    Inside gossip from the coal face.
    Morale never been lower at Evolve centers.
    Cost cutting taken to even more extreme level's.
    Manipulation of qualified staffing level's by sending qualified caregivers to center's under audit and later reassigning them back to their regular center's when audit finished, (effectively gaming the system that's established in terms of qualified to unqualified staff minimum legislated ratio's)
    Increasing use of minimum wage employees with inadequate training and inadequate supervision

    Just what the hound heard by pricking up his ears at a recent family lunch.
    Costs an ongoing problem I reckon ....need to screw them down to keep shareholders happy as (stuff other stakeholders like kids, parents and the loyal staff)

    But Rosanne is keen to sort all that out


    PS - don’t like sound of that gaming the system going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Costs an ongoing problem I reckon ....need to screw them down to keep shareholders happy as (stuff other stakeholders like kids, parents and the loyal staff)

    But Rosanne is keen to sort all that out


    PS - don’t like sound of that gaming the system going on.
    That "little birdie" has proved to be a reliable chirper in the past and yes I was quite shocked to hear what they're doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    That "little birdie" has proved to be a reliable chirper in the past and yes I was quite shocked to hear what they're doing.
    Gaming the system... Vocation, Intueri, Ashley, Australian Careers Network... What is it with deceitful scum practices and education companies?

    The warning signs for Evo aren't just on the wall... they cover the floor and the ceiling.

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