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    Quote Originally Posted by beacon View Post
    And I'd do the same for the separate PP dataset beginning from the date of the first PP loan.
    Have done the PP one - see note on side of graph.

    I'm tempted to just go with all loans from start to current, the watering down effect is likely to be minimal and one would expect it would effect everything by the same proportion (assuming similar loan characteristics throughout the year)?

    Happy to go with the flow with this, just don't want to over complicate things too early

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMJH View Post
    When you quote default rates, are these %'s by loan numbers or $ values ?
    Numbers, can't do value on a merged data set. (everyone invests different amounts in individual loans - the merged unique dataset is made up of values from different lenders)

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    Quote Originally Posted by myles View Post
    Numbers, can't do value on a merged data set. (everyone invests different amounts in individual loans - the merged unique dataset is made up of values from different lenders)
    Thanks, I'm clearly a bit behind some of you guys! I guess to an extent using numbers compensates for the young loans included though the figures should be viewed as comparative (for setting filters) rather than absolute (for calculating returns) and are not directly comparable with HM's.

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    Hi Myles

    How many loans exist in the combined data set with the each of the following problems

    Negative principal outstanding

    Paid Off/Cancelled - but still owe money

    Active/Arrears but $0.00 principal owing

    As I assume others have the same problems as I have had with data quality - Or maybe even more concerning - if this data is correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by humvee View Post
    How many loans exist in the combined data set with the each of the following problems
    Negative principal outstanding: 49 (-$152.13)
    Paid Off/Cancelled - but still owe money: 248 ($1350.66)
    Active/Arrears but $0.00 principal owing: 8

    Some of this could be due to timing, small rounding type errors, and there will be duplicates? Doesn't look excessive for the size of the data set?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Bear View Post
    I just had a quick look at my defaults in HM reports on the website. Of the last 10 charge-offs, 6 had indicated that they were re-writes but had 0 successful payments and 0 remaining payments. Maybe HM just "zeroize" the re-writes when loans are charge-off. So maybe the conclusion that re-writes are safer investments is not correct after all.
    Yes all Harmoney charged-off loan that were a rewrite seem to have had all their rewrite data corrupted or changed. All mine have been reset to '0' in the charged-off loan details and N/A in the reports...ScreenHunt.jpg

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    Thoughts on this style:

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    Fantastic effort so far Myles. And a very good pickup by alundracloud on the rewrite data glitch.

    Will however comment that many of the graph's lack predictive validity, as you haven't controlled for confounders I'm guessing there's significantly more AB grades in home improvement and 50-59 age group loans; and more EF grades in 20-29yo and household items (for example).

    The question begs whether a "C" grade 20-29yo is more likely to default compared to a "C" grade 50-59, and similar with Home Improvements vs HH Items or Used Cars. If not those categories may already be fully explained by the grading category assigned by HM.

    Commend you on your efforts so far though, top work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by myles View Post
    Thoughts on this style:

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    Really good. Thanks Myles.

    Appears that HM had trouble grading C and D grades early on in '14. Otherwise looks to be running consistent. Wonder whether there's early signs of improvement in DEF grade defaults out of platform 1.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by leesal View Post
    Will however comment that many of the graph's lack predictive validity, as you haven't controlled for confounders
    It was never my intent to run numbers for all combinations, nor to validate the grading system...

    By putting together some high level detail, individuals can drill down to 'discover' what they think are key predictors and perhaps share what they find if it is of value. As I said before, a pivot table can be used to do much of that type of work. There is plenty of research available that has covered much of this ground before - whether it applies is the question.

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