Mercantile Investments - MVT. (BIL revisited)

[Balance]

Agree; why on earth can his name be published so off the bat when we cannot identify Grace Millanes killer even though its " out there". ? Let alone the "alleged killer", now thats a joke, of the Mulsims in ChCH earlier this year... this is very unfair on Sir Ron Brierley. Who knows what the facts are here? Winston where are you? You love to discuss facts.

Crime was committed by him in Australia, not NZ.

He has not been granted name suppression, presumably because the crime is so repugnant and disgusting.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/former-corporate-raider-charged-with-child-porn-offences-20191218-p53l0b.html

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-z...y-charges.html

Public has a right to know as people like him pose a danger to children out there. If you were a member of the Australian cricket fraternity, would you not want to be aware so your young children are not in his company?

[Balance]

So Ron loved visiting Thailand way back in the 70s and 80s to enjoy female company - teenage prostitutes.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...abuse-material

Except : "In her 1990 biography Brierley, the Man Behind the Corporate Legend, Yvonne van Dongen wrote that he frequently travelled to Asia - mostly to Thailand - where he enjoyed encounters with young women - often teenage prostitutes.

"Brierley seems completely comfortable with this aspect of his life and showed no signs of embarrassment when teased about his frequent trips to Thailand," the book says.

"'You know how I like to visit the Buddhist temples', he told me with a knowing smile."

In light of this, Ms van Dongen told RNZ that his arrest came as no surprise to her."

[RTM]

So Ron loved visiting Thailand way back in the 70s and 80s to enjoy female company - teenage prostitutes.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...abuse-material

Except : "In her 1990 biography Brierley, the Man Behind the Corporate Legend, Yvonne van Dongen wrote that he frequently travelled to Asia - mostly to Thailand - where he enjoyed encounters with young women - often teenage prostitutes.

"Brierley seems completely comfortable with this aspect of his life and showed no signs of embarrassment when teased about his frequent trips to Thailand," the book says.

"'You know how I like to visit the Buddhist temples', he told me with a knowing smile."

In light of this, Ms van Dongen told RNZ that his arrest came as no surprise to her."

I wish I could put this thread on ignore.

[Balance]

I wish I could put this thread on ignore.

This is serious stuff, RTM.

If I had read the book, I would certainly have been even more critical than I have been of Ron's propensity to breed fat cats - in BIL, GPG and if he had half a chance, MVT.

His attention was clearly elsewhere - a sick mind does not make for good investment decisions.


Note to self - pay more attention to biographies & autobiographies of corporate leaders in future before investing or evaluating investments.

[winner69]

Sounds like Ron got his stamp collection mixed up with his other collection ....digitalization is fraught with danger

[percy]

This is serious stuff, RTM.

If I had read the book, I would certainly have been even more critical than I have been of Ron's propensity to breed fat cats - in BIL, GPG and if he had half a chance, MVT.

His attention was clearly elsewhere - a sick mind does not make for good investment decisions.


Note to self - pay more attention to biographies & autobiographies of corporate leaders in future before investing or evaluating investments.

I read the book.
Then over the years there were further cryptic clues that he had issues.
So no surprises there.

[Balance]

I read the book.
Then over the years there were further cryptic clues that he had issues.

And here’s the huge problem - any profile person in a leadership role with an unsavoury background (unknown to the general public but known to a selected few) is extremely vulnerable to blackmail and pressure to act in interests of the selected few & his own interest.

[bull....]

Sir Ron Brierley enjoyed sex with teenage prostitutes

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/118...ge-prostitutes

[percy]

Sir Ron Brierley enjoyed sex with teenage prostitutes

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/118...ge-prostitutes

With what we know now,200,000 images and 512 video of "Child porn" we can understand why he was happy with the "sex with teenage prostitutes" comment.
Google Prostitution Thailand and note the serious problem with underage sex tourism.
A seriously sick mind.

[Snoopy]

With what we know now,200,000 images and 512 video of "Child porn" we can understand why he was happy with the "sex with teenage prostitutes" comment.
Google Prostitution Thailand and note the serious problem with underage sex tourism.
A seriously sick mind.

No-one can condone the exploitation of underage children in whatever country for the sexual gratification of old white men. And if the tip off from the public has come from Brierley's biographer via a book published thirty years ago, the police have certainly been tardy to act. But let's look at the facts here.

Brierley may indeed be a devout buddist. It was the author of the book who put her own interpretation on his comments on visiting buddist temples. Counter to that argument would be that most devout buddists eschew the trappings of wealth. But wealth is a relative term. Brierley was in his heyday generous with sharing his wealth with others (160,000+ shareholders). Relative to the really wealthy, like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, you could argue that Brierley is in fact a pauper.

Underage prostitution may be a problem in Thailand. But there is no evidence that Sir Ron participated in this more unsavoury side of the business. He may have engaged with 'of age' prostitutes in a perfectly legal way. Behaving in way that public perception might see as unsavoury does not make Brierley a criminal.

As for those thousands of porn photographs on his computer, they could be multiple copies from his Hallenstein Glasson annual report collection ready to hand out to participants in an investment seminar he was organising in Fiji.

I am not condoning Brierley if he is eventually found guilty. But to try him and convict him by media before he is even officially named in the Australian courts as a defendant is I think going too far. I am suggesting there could still be legitimate explanations for the facts as published by the media.

SNOOPY

[blackcap]

No-one can condone the exploitation of underage children in whatever country for the sexual gratification of old white men. And if the tip off from the public has come from Brierley's biographer of thirty years ago, the police have certainly been tardy to act. But let's look at the facts here.

Brierley may indeed be a devout buddist. It was the author of the book who put her own interpretation on his comments on visiting buddist temples. Counter to that argument would be that most devout buddists eschew the trappings of wealth. But wealth is a relative term. Brierley was in his heyday generous with sharing his wealth with others (160,000+ shareholders). Relative to the really wealthy, like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, you could argue that Brierley is in fact a pauper.

Underage prostitution may be a problem in Thailand. But there is no evidence that Sir Ron participated in this more unsavoury side of the business. He may have engaged with of age prostitutes in a perfectly legal way.

What does "white" men have anything to do with it? I know plenty of old "black" men or other colour of men that engage in child exploitation. Lets leave colourout of it and just say for the gratification of men.
It is a sad end for a man I once admired in my teens. I wonder if he will go down the Epstein route as it is not fun having to contemplate dying in jail if that is where he is headed if found guilty.

[bull....]

ive been to thailand and had a massage ( non sex ) and know plenty of people who have done the same and it is not uncommon too have 200+ women with numbers paraded in front of you so you can choose which one you want too give the massage. some people can easliy be confused with innocent acts just because it was in thailand.

[Balance]

ive been to thailand and had a massage ( non sex ) and know plenty of people who have done the same and it is not uncommon too have 200+ women with numbers paraded in front of you so you can choose which one you want too give the massage. some people can easliy be confused with innocent acts just because it was in thailand.

Nothing innocent about having 200,000+ images and videos of under-age/children being exploited for sex.

[bull....]

Nothing innocent about having 200,000+ images and videos of under-age/children being exploited for sex.

correct but in NZ your innocent until proven guilty

[Balance]

People are not what they seem until they get caught or something unfortunate happens.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=10826783

Must be something in the water they drink at the Brierley Investment office back in those days?

Model citizen, keen churchgoer and successful business driven family man by day with no-one suspecting that Herman kept 5 mobile phones so that he could indulge in his other activities - which tragically got him killed when he tried to get a freebie. All the wealth in the world and he wanted a freebie.