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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    This is serious stuff, RTM.

    If I had read the book, I would certainly have been even more critical than I have been of Ron's propensity to breed fat cats - in BIL, GPG and if he had half a chance, MVT.

    His attention was clearly elsewhere - a sick mind does not make for good investment decisions.


    Note to self - pay more attention to biographies & autobiographies of corporate leaders in future before investing or evaluating investments.
    I read the book.
    Then over the years there were further cryptic clues that he had issues.
    So no surprises there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    I read the book.
    Then over the years there were further cryptic clues that he had issues.
    And here’s the huge problem - any profile person in a leadership role with an unsavoury background (unknown to the general public but known to a selected few) is extremely vulnerable to blackmail and pressure to act in interests of the selected few & his own interest.

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    Sir Ron Brierley enjoyed sex with teenage prostitutes

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/118...ge-prostitutes
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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    Sir Ron Brierley enjoyed sex with teenage prostitutes

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/118...ge-prostitutes
    With what we know now,200,000 images and 512 video of "Child porn" we can understand why he was happy with the "sex with teenage prostitutes" comment.
    Google Prostitution Thailand and note the serious problem with underage sex tourism.
    A seriously sick mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    With what we know now,200,000 images and 512 video of "Child porn" we can understand why he was happy with the "sex with teenage prostitutes" comment.
    Google Prostitution Thailand and note the serious problem with underage sex tourism.
    A seriously sick mind.
    No-one can condone the exploitation of underage children in whatever country for the sexual gratification of old white men. And if the tip off from the public has come from Brierley's biographer via a book published thirty years ago, the police have certainly been tardy to act. But let's look at the facts here.

    Brierley may indeed be a devout buddist. It was the author of the book who put her own interpretation on his comments on visiting buddist temples. Counter to that argument would be that most devout buddists eschew the trappings of wealth. But wealth is a relative term. Brierley was in his heyday generous with sharing his wealth with others (160,000+ shareholders). Relative to the really wealthy, like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, you could argue that Brierley is in fact a pauper.

    Underage prostitution may be a problem in Thailand. But there is no evidence that Sir Ron participated in this more unsavoury side of the business. He may have engaged with 'of age' prostitutes in a perfectly legal way. Behaving in way that public perception might see as unsavoury does not make Brierley a criminal.

    As for those thousands of porn photographs on his computer, they could be multiple copies from his Hallenstein Glasson annual report collection ready to hand out to participants in an investment seminar he was organising in Fiji.

    I am not condoning Brierley if he is eventually found guilty. But to try him and convict him by media before he is even officially named in the Australian courts as a defendant is I think going too far. I am suggesting there could still be legitimate explanations for the facts as published by the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoopy View Post
    No-one can condone the exploitation of underage children in whatever country for the sexual gratification of old white men. And if the tip off from the public has come from Brierley's biographer of thirty years ago, the police have certainly been tardy to act. But let's look at the facts here.

    Brierley may indeed be a devout buddist. It was the author of the book who put her own interpretation on his comments on visiting buddist temples. Counter to that argument would be that most devout buddists eschew the trappings of wealth. But wealth is a relative term. Brierley was in his heyday generous with sharing his wealth with others (160,000+ shareholders). Relative to the really wealthy, like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, you could argue that Brierley is in fact a pauper.

    Underage prostitution may be a problem in Thailand. But there is no evidence that Sir Ron participated in this more unsavoury side of the business. He may have engaged with of age prostitutes in a perfectly legal way.
    What does "white" men have anything to do with it? I know plenty of old "black" men or other colour of men that engage in child exploitation. Lets leave colourout of it and just say for the gratification of men.
    It is a sad end for a man I once admired in my teens. I wonder if he will go down the Epstein route as it is not fun having to contemplate dying in jail if that is where he is headed if found guilty.
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    ive been to thailand and had a massage ( non sex ) and know plenty of people who have done the same and it is not uncommon too have 200+ women with numbers paraded in front of you so you can choose which one you want too give the massage. some people can easliy be confused with innocent acts just because it was in thailand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    ive been to thailand and had a massage ( non sex ) and know plenty of people who have done the same and it is not uncommon too have 200+ women with numbers paraded in front of you so you can choose which one you want too give the massage. some people can easliy be confused with innocent acts just because it was in thailand.
    Nothing innocent about having 200,000+ images and videos of under-age/children being exploited for sex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Nothing innocent about having 200,000+ images and videos of under-age/children being exploited for sex.
    correct but in NZ your innocent until proven guilty
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    People are not what they seem until they get caught or something unfortunate happens.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=10826783

    Must be something in the water they drink at the Brierley Investment office back in those days?

    Model citizen, keen churchgoer and successful business driven family man by day with no-one suspecting that Herman kept 5 mobile phones so that he could indulge in his other activities - which tragically got him killed when he tried to get a freebie. All the wealth in the world and he wanted a freebie.

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