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    is this the breakout to the upside on the s&p500 2800 was resistance from the 6mth range would imply a couple hundred points move we will see
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    jp morgon thinking we only stage 2 bull market, i like there thinking

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...run-until-2020
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    Saw yesterday an expert claiming the bull might run through to 2024:

    https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/18/new...ion/index.html

    Obviously - this could be a clear sign for overconfidence in the market ... i.e. we are in the last phase of the bull.

    I don't remember whether I've seen so far an analysis of how accurate all these predictions are. Obviously - even a broken clock is right twice a day and I expect that the annual bear / bull predictions reach a similar level of accuracy. If we count it as "correct" if the analyst gets the year and the direction right, and if we allow for an average bull cycle of 7 years and a bear cycle of 1 year +/- 6 months, than I'd expect that most experts get it roughly 79% right if they predict another bull year and roughly 21% right if they predict a bear year.

    Looks like predicting bull years improves analysts track record ; Not sure however how to assess analysts who correctly predicted 7 of the last 2 downturns ;

    From what I've seen so far - there are a handful of (non-lagging) indicators for an emerging bear (like interest rate inversion, unemployment numbers and similar) ... but none of them is perfect and none is able to look further than a handful of months ahead. Nobody can predict whether the bull keeps running for some more years to come.
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    s%p 500 holding above the breakout , touch wood new highs? hope no one owed facebook? savaged

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/26/face...mpany-sin.html
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    One would imagine that Facebook has peaked in terms of users.

    Both the changes that they keep making to try and squeeze a dollar from the punters and the younger generations who see Facebook as for old people tend to suggest it will eventually go the way of MySpace. Could be wrong, and it won't happen overnight.

    On the other hand, if they rebrand quick enough they may gain enough of the Trademe/Ebay/Craigs List market share to remain relevant.

    Then there is the news market. It will be interesting to see who takes control of that as newspapers die out and people look for a replacement. Will be a crowdsource replacement like Facebook, or will an online aggregator assume power. Do we want reliable news, tabloid news, or news supplied by those with the deepest pockets.

    There are a number of powerplays to be made in the not too distant future in this space I would imagine.

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    Things look great across the NZX and ASX right now. Don't you just love a little lift on a Friday? Makes the weekend seem all the more sweeter.

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    Yass from Black Monday to Happy hour Friday

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    Van Morrison - Tupelo Honey

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    Still extended stocks are rising but milk prices are dropping very badly.

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    According to Trading Economics Global 1 year milk price has dropped re 12%.
    Coffee is down 20% so the cafes and roasters here are doing well margin wise as 99.9% of drinkers are unaware the savings are not being passed on. My cafe says milk and labour are up .

    Meanwhile USA is booming thanks to selfie trumpy
    Trump Claims Credit as the Economy Hits a High Note
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timesurfer View Post
    One would imagine that Facebook has peaked in terms of users.
    Just anecdotal but I would think it is falling, certainly in terms of medium to heavy users. Couple of years ago all my peeps were on there on a daily basis sharing their days events. Now hardly at all. Some gone to Twitter or snap chat or whatever, some have decided it not private enough and shut down their accounts, it become a bit old hat

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