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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    You mean Nigel Farage the outrageous liar?

    Why would anybody care what this idiot says - he has proven again and again how clueless he is ...
    And when proven wrong (often) he never says 'oops, got that wrong sorry'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    What a load of s*it why do you even post it?
    sometimes i need to post bull....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    sometimes i need to post bull....
    To be fair newshub are the "professionals" so I guess we can assume they assessed the information and decided it passed the sniff test before publishing. Either that or they will print anything to get eyeballs and make money.

    Is journalism considered a profession anymore or do they just publish whatever cr*p sells best?

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    Better than perpetually grovelling to be accepted as America's lap dog. I believe a running joke at the Whitehouse is "The Prime Minister in our pocket" although the British prefer 'special relationship.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    To be fair newshub are the "professionals" so I guess we can assume they assessed the information and decided it passed the sniff test before publishing. Either that or they will print anything to get eyeballs and make money.
    If they didn't publish it, I'm sure a group would proclaim this as evidence of media bias.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoOzA5Alo-c

    Thomas Lee on CNBC

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNnVN3YlcbQ

    and Marko Kalonovic.

    I do have the vanilla indexes and ETFs (USF, USV, USM, USS, FNZ, OZY, MZY, a lot of ASR (plenty of overlap with the last three) and Kernel Wealth's infrastructure and dividend indexes but I did allow myself a little mad money purchase of two Energy ETFs last year (VDE and IXC) via Hatch.

    So naturally I just seek out commentators that support my action ie I hear what I want to hear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobdn View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoOzA5Alo-c

    Thomas Lee on CNBC

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNnVN3YlcbQ

    and Marko Kalonovic.

    I do have the vanilla indexes and ETFs (USF, USV, USM, USS, FNZ, OZY, MZY, a lot of ASR (plenty of overlap with the last three) and Kernel Wealth's infrastructure and dividend indexes but I did allow myself a little mad money purchase of two Energy ETFs last year (VDE and IXC) via Hatch.

    So naturally I just seek out commentators that support my action ie I hear what I want to hear
    always good to listen too. been a good mth for stocks april.

    in this article from bloomberg there back testing suggests technical analysis has not worked this year and buy and hold is really working as is buy the dips still.

    Sell Signals All but Useless in Unchartable 2021 Stock Market

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...1-stock-market
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    Excellent read, thanks. Fortunately I wouldn't know a sell signal from my elbow and took no action. Being part of the Dumb Money has been a blessing over the last year.

    Wow, big week on Wall Street this week. I start every morning with coffee and Half Time report with the Judge.
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    fed meeting just wrapped up

    Fed holds interest rates near zero, sees faster growth and higher inflation

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/28/fed-...inflation.html


    wow biden set to unveil

    Biden to unveil $1.8 trillion plan for children and families — here’s what’s in it

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/28/bide...ats-in-it.html

    this is on top of the multi trillion infrastructure package announced recently.
    biden is really go big or go home.
    while in NZ they are talking about cutting back the year ago talked about infrastructure package. which in another year most likely they still be talking about it lol
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    Aaron me old mate, you might enjoy this piece by David McWilliams

    Hpw the super league fiasco signals the end of neoliberalism


    A 30-year economic supercycle ended this week
    http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/a-30-y...ded-this-week/

    All ideologies contain the seeds of their own destruction: inequality ultimately did for neoliberalism in the West. We are on a new course.
    When investors are euphoric, they are incapable of recognizing euphoria itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Aaron me old mate, you might enjoy this piece by David McWilliams

    Hpw the super league fiasco signals the end of neoliberalism


    A 30-year economic supercycle ended this week
    http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/a-30-y...ded-this-week/

    All ideologies contain the seeds of their own destruction: inequality ultimately did for neoliberalism in the West. We are on a new course.

    "....Rather, MMT argues that we simply print it (money). Spend first and tax later, as opposed to taxing first and spending later...."

    There are of course multiple problems with that approach, the principle one being that it is politically easier to spend than to tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    "....Rather, MMT argues that we simply print it (money). Spend first and tax later, as opposed to taxing first and spending later...."

    There are of course multiple problems with that approach, the principle one being that it is politically easier to spend than to tax.
    The biggest problem with MMT will be the collapse in confidence of Fiat currencies and at some point high or even hyper inflation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Aaron me old mate, you might enjoy this piece by David McWilliams

    Hpw the super league fiasco signals the end of neoliberalism


    A 30-year economic supercycle ended this week
    http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/a-30-y...ded-this-week/

    All ideologies contain the seeds of their own destruction: inequality ultimately did for neoliberalism in the West. We are on a new course.
    I don't see MMT being any different to what we have now with low interest rates and easy money except it is currently going to the owners of capital. Whereas MMT will give the money to governments to throw around and buy elections.

    You would have to say interest rates and monetary policy are getting to extremes (I could be wrong years from now but based on the past it seems extreme)

    The problem remains the same no constraint on money supply. Something for nothing just like the gift inflation is to borrowers money printing works much the same way.

    A sound stable currency might be a good thing for the average person. Imagine a world where if you worked hard and saved you could get ahead (not possible now with rampant housing inflation). What if productivity gains and more efficient business practices were allowed to cause deflation and the cost of living for everyone went down instead of up. Imagine young people being able to afford an education AND a house and family. Having it all, just like the generations before them.

    But no we have a continuation of trickle down economics. Sadly european soccer fans can understand when they are getting shaken down but young people in NZ remain ignorant to the fact that they are likely to be poorer, be less healthy and have shorter lives than the previous generation. Unless of course Mum & Dad have done alright, then they are likely to be much better off than their peers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    dodge coin on fire. this value play lol has been under - rated by the market for a long time. even my uni son brought it in the cents as a laugh with his friends. guess they are laughing now.
    dont worry the fed has our backs and in this current environment the biggest gamblers are the most rewarded.
    dodge on fire . the future is dodge some would say lol remember dont be greedy
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    Isn't MMT the same thing as Social Credit's funny money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nor View Post
    Isn't MMT the same thing as Social Credit's funny money?

    MMT still has debt on one side of the balance sheet, while CL's social credit is just the RB printing money & giving to the government with no liability to repay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerald View Post
    MMT still has debt on one side of the balance sheet, while CL's social credit is just the RB printing money & giving to the government with no liability to repay.
    Ah. But then they monetise the debt? I was reading a little while ago that the Bank of England had already done that recently in a devious way.

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    US Fed second Qtr gdp growth forecast 13pct annualised.

    Companies are reporting first qtr sales and earnings growth well above analysts forecasts.

    Wow

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    dodge on fire up another 50% since this morning ..... people are seeing the light lol bye the way musk speaking later might send it to the moon lol.

    gotta ask yourself do ya feel lucky , well do ya punk

    11000% return in 2021
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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    dodge on fire up another 50% since this morning ..... people are seeing the light lol bye the way musk speaking later might send it to the moon lol.

    gotta ask yourself do ya feel lucky , well do ya punk

    11000% return in 2021
    What a joke, gambling pure and simple. Hope no one is left with their pants down when the tide goes out.

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