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    Quote Originally Posted by kiora View Post
    But IF a crash comes where best to park your money for asset survival?
    Property? Risk of banks asking for higher equity.If interest rates increase then risk of devaluation & poor liquidity
    Bank deposits? Risk of loosing it all as it then is an asset of the bank & you are an unsecured creditor?
    Precious metals?Storage risk.
    Primary Industry? Complex risks.
    Shares? Growth or income?
    Well, life is full of risks, isn't it? That's why even the gospel recommends diversification ;

    Give portions to seven, yes to eight, for you do not know what disaster may come upon the land. Ecclesiastes 11:2
    .. just take a bit of each ...
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    Yes we follow the trend(And not have major GFC2.0) and we will see lower rates till a point where we zero base rates 1-2% lending rates ?? currently international there is over 11 trillion is negative yeilding bonds ... this we just keep increasing .. with no direction otherwise to date
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    Pieces of Eight. Maybe Silver's time to shine has finally come back.Holding a few goldies atm some with silver credits. Holding plenty of cash/bonds too, inflation being so low, happy to reduce risk and wait for some bargains. Looking ahead, wood and food are predicted to become short globally as climate change increases . NZ is in a sweet spot here, whilst production will drop in other parts of the world it won't here. Hope they are wrong with the big picture though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Pieces of Eight. Maybe Silver's time to shine has finally come back.Holding a few goldies atm some with silver credits. Holding plenty of cash/bonds too, inflation being so low, happy to reduce risk and wait for some bargains. Looking ahead, wood and food are predicted to become short globally as climate change increases . NZ is in a sweet spot here, whilst production will drop in other parts of the world it won't here. Hope they are wrong with the big picture though.
    its a strange time for sure , gold and silver normally go up as a inflation hedge , not when things look deflationary. unless there expecting the collapse of the monetary system?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Pieces of Eight. Maybe Silver's time to shine has finally come back.Holding a few goldies atm some with silver credits. Holding plenty of cash/bonds too, inflation being so low, happy to reduce risk and wait for some bargains. Looking ahead, wood and food are predicted to become short globally as climate change increases . NZ is in a sweet spot here, whilst production will drop in other parts of the world it won't here. Hope they are wrong with the big picture though.
    This article suggests production could drop here
    https://www.interest.co.nz/rural-new...roductive-food
    "If the 500,000 ha required to meet the 2030 carbon requirements is correct and comes from similar country then there will be a reduction of up to 5-6 million sheep equivalents. This reduction is going to result in the loss of far more jobs than forestry will ever be able to replace, and it will be throughout all communities not just the rural rector."

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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    its a strange time for sure , gold and silver normally go up as a inflation hedge , not when things look deflationary. unless there expecting the collapse of the monetary system?
    Yeah but we live in a mixed-up world these days(Interest rates down = Good times??) and I now think the inverse investments should well do much better as the return on investment Vs risk

    Personal I'd love to sell the family home and go back renting($600pw) if we could get the current value given on homes.co.nz ... but where to put $880-900k NZD term dep = 3% less tax if that keeps going lower one could see how a mix of GOLD/SILVER/High-Yield equities/blue chip commercial property long fixed term would be a smarter place to keep funds.

    Personal believe the highs in local Res property has been reached.. and at best a flatline over the next decade to major fall worse case.
    much more rentals coming to market recently is pushing me in that direction
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiora View Post
    This article suggests production could drop here
    https://www.interest.co.nz/rural-new...roductive-food
    "If the 500,000 ha required to meet the 2030 carbon requirements is correct and comes from similar country then there will be a reduction of up to 5-6 million sheep equivalents. This reduction is going to result in the loss of far more jobs than forestry will ever be able to replace, and it will be throughout all communities not just the rural rector."
    This in depth thorough interview dispels that argument imo.

    One billion trees where are they going to be planted?

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    I am holding too much cash. It really has devalued as everything seems to have increased in price dramatically, property, shares. Buffet hates too much cash. There are articles popping up everywhere on impending monetary collapse. Hate to be in a position where I have to pay a bank to hold my life savings. Dont want to panic though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bottomfeeder View Post
    I am holding too much cash. It really has devalued as everything seems to have increased in price dramatically, property, shares. Buffet hates too much cash. There are articles popping up everywhere on impending monetary collapse. Hate to be in a position where I have to pay a bank to hold my life savings. Dont want to panic though.
    Not every investment is overvalued just far more work to find them if you have a narrow profile= Cash Dep + Res. Property + NZX large caps etc

    I don't see a GFC2.0 happening overnight but will play out over time(As it started long ago) with even lower rates to keep investors / leveraged in the black
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