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    Another "interesting" week for sure.

    Loved this video. Kevin has sold his stocks and crypto - a $20,000,000 portfolio. Very interesting to hear his reasons.

    I'm doing absolutely nothing (which he thinks is a perfectly fine option for a non trader like me). I'm doing the 4 per cent rule as a retiree. I can't be darting in and out of markets at the first sign of trouble. However, if markets "shat themselves" and I mean really made a mess where you actually end up having to throw the pants out rather than putting them in the washing machine, then I would spend frugally for the next year or so until the ship was righted somewhat. I'm a 4 per cent rule convert but happy to be flexible.

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    Hope this is as black as it gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bottomfeeder View Post
    Hope this is as black as it gets.
    If it's a correction as seems likely then the ASX has 10% to go down, similar to early 2016 and late 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clearasmud View Post
    If it's a correction as seems likely then the ASX has 10% to go down, similar to early 2016 and late 2018.

    I dont know about that - Oz have already had their Omocron effects priced in starting months back .. onshore here
    - NZX may well see further effects being effectively priced in, in places IMO

    A lot has changed since 2016 & 2018 - Oz has Minerals / Resources sought after globally and an
    active sector extending their interests into resources globally.

    Where is our Minerals & Mining Sector ? (Best ask the snails)

    Where is our Energy Sector now ? (not just the Wind Water & Solar either)

    Where is our Manufacturing Industry now ?

    Just the stuff that goes in Coffee & Cheese left now & Export Meat off to China jobs left ? or not ?

    Shame about that..


    What is happening now is a Localised NZ event on top of the past week's global economic dip
    but with Omocron thrown in + lack of Lifejackets etc - how deep will it go in the next 1-2 months ?

    Throw in estimates 10's of thousands of new infections, all the disruption (the news warns of all these) and
    where or how much lower could things go ?

    Possibly some good opportunities may appear, depending on how the Omocron Red Lights continue to go down, for those who dare.

    At worst - no Govt support likely to date - how deep could the fall be - halfway to or the full March 2020 repeated ?

    Already for the bruised & battered businesses in some areas - this may be the final blow
    without a Govt life jacket anywhere to be seen.

    Grant's 4 Bills left in C19 kitty isn't going to go far - so on that basis if unchanged,
    suggests numerous casualties will be left up the creek without a paddle by the current
    "KIND" administration, now apparently abandoning responsibility for things..

    Where did I read that the smart money has already gone off to European markets ?

    Anyone blame them ?

    but just MTCW
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    just woke up wall st big fall
    just as well got the shorts on. is gratham right ?
    one step ahead of the herd

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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    just woke up wall st big fall
    just as well got the shorts on. is gratham right ?
    Belt in its going to be a fun ride today 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dlownz View Post
    Belt in its going to be a fun ride today 
    yep asx showing nearly a 4% fall at the moment
    one step ahead of the herd

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    Jeepers big fall alright. We going to follow again? Hold on

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    JP Morgan updated their 2022 year-end price target on the S&P 500 to 4,440, which would represent a decline of 6.0% from the current price or about -5% total return.

    Lucky that JP Morgan are pretty useless forecasters

    If it did end up the year at 4440 we might be happy
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    They say it’s all because of inflation / interest rates and high valuations

    I love this chart …..not just because of its beauty but the story it tells ……inflation over 4% watch out for valuations.

    For geeks it’s the Y-curve …low PEs if we see deflation is interesting.
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