So when America invades Iraq Afghanistan, libia, Syrians many other countries its ok.. NATO and the UN aswell...... but when Russia goes at Ukraine to protect itself from a hostile takeover from the west then its boycotts and seizing assets... there were also 14,000 Russians murdered in Ukraine by extremists over the years..
There's far more to the story than you believe... and I think it's because Putin (like Trump) aren't doing what they are told to do...
It all reeks to high hell and none of yous see it...
You have to go search for the proper info... you will not find it on the mainstream media...
LOL - Wladimir ... how lucky we are to have your misinformation pushed directly into our throats. Nearly as lucky as the citizens of Russia who expect now 15 year prison sentences just for saying the truth.
What an absolute disgrace coming from somebody enjoying all the perks of the West. Shame on you!
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
LOL - Wladimir ... how lucky we are to have your misinformation pushed directly into our throats. Nearly as lucky as the citizens of Russia who expect now 15 year prison sentences just for saying the truth.
What an absolute disgrace coming from somebody enjoying all the perks of the West. Shame on you!
I posted this on a different thread. Might help you see a different perspective.
Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer
There are always various geopolitical issues. However there is no excuse for the invasion and widespread bombing and butchering of Ukrainians in their homes. If Putin's cause were just, why should he need to stamp out a foolish opposition?
Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? Featuring John Mearsheimer
Yes I've watched that. For context though - this is a 2015 speech given from a foreign policy 'realist' at the University of Chicago professor - and the subject is on Crimea & the Donbass. His speech largely focuses on the west antagonizing Russia through letting Ukraine keep its dream of joing Nato - no matter how farfetched and distant - alive. Coupled with Nato's eastword drift over the last 30 years. I've read some follow-up interviews he's given and in this video and in those follow-ups he says Russia would never fully invade Ukraine, that Russia doesn't want the ukraine, that it would be madness for Putin to ever do that, and in his view Putin just wants to destablise the Ukraine so it can't keep integrating with the west.
Well Russia has fully invaded Ukraine and just the other day Putin declared to Macron that he intended to seize the entirety of the Ukraine - a direct contradiction to Mearsheimer's thesis.
There can be no doubt that Russia and America have spent the last 70 odd years prodding each other, like annoying brats who can't help but egg each other on.
But despite Nato's open door policy and all the warm and fluffy sounds offered to Ukraine, they were never about to join Nato. It wasn't ever close to happening and nor was it ever in the forseeable future. Russia had in fact its own defacto veto card with its occupation of Crimea and keeping the conflict going in eastern ukraine as there is a standing policy that no country may join nato if they are in an ongoing conflict. Furthermore, there can be no doubt that America was wanting to withdrawal much of its forces and attention from Europe and the middle east to focus on China. America simply didn't care about Russia and wasn't building up its forces in recent times - the opposite was true.
The fact is Ukraine wasn't going to join Nato and the west was turning its focus away from Russia and to China. The blame for Russia's invasion of Ukraine rests solely with Putin.
The west bears responsibility for encouraging Ukraine's hopes and talk of joining Nato. And for humiliating & antagonizing Russia for expanding Nato over the last 30 years. But Russia has done its own fair share of antangozing the West right back - and the former is hardly any justification for this war.
Australia to Build New $7.4 Billion Base for Nuclear Submarines
The Australian government will spend at least A$10 billion ($7.4 billion) building a new base to house a future fleet of nuclear submarines, as Prime Minister Scott Morrison warns the Ukraine war will “inevitably stretch” to the Indo-Pacific.
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