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    Quote Originally Posted by GOAT View Post
    I keep hearing about recession or possibly stagflation.. what are the odds of this actually happening? Are there any technical indicators that one can draw conclusions from?

    I'm too young to know what happens during high inflation. As a result of inflation, can we expect to see consumers stop spending on luxuries due to higher pricing on necessities?

    Additionally, how should one be positioned in volatile times? Personally, right now I'm not comfortable with holding low amounts of cash like 20%, and also at the same time uneasy about going 100% cash and waiting for drop in asset prices.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opi...idence-plunges
    Lowest consumer confidence since this survey began nearly 20 years ago including at any time during the GFC ! so that's a huge heads-up the consumers will be pulling their heads in on discretionary spending.
    Yes that's exactly what tends to happen and luxury good manufacturers in Europe have been really beaten up as a result.
    I have been 70%+ in cash all year and sleeping pretty well at night. At this point its all about capital preservation in these strange and highly volatile times.
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    Jeez ….they even putting hard landing in the headlines …..as the RBNZ gets drawn into a ‘squeeze it to death’ battle with inflation


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    Oil prices dropping as India, China & Pakistan move to buy discounted Russian oil.

    So they buy oil off Russia at a cheaper price (15% to 20% discount) and sell the oil they have contracted to buy from other countries into the markets for a nice profit.

    Economics 101 in action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Oil prices dropping as India, China & Pakistan move to buy discounted Russian oil.

    So they buy oil off Russia at a cheaper price (15% to 20% discount) and sell the oil they have contracted to buy from other countries into the markets for a nice profit.

    Economics 101 in action.
    One advantage of not being too ‘outspoken’ and condemning Russia eh
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    One advantage of not being too ‘outspoken’ and condemning Russia eh
    The West is still buying Russian gas and oil so is in no position to criticise the three countries.

    Interesting too that India & China are going to be using LCS (local currency system) to buy the oil - bilateral trade using rouble/rupee & renminbi/rouble.

    The beginning of the end of the US$ as the global trade currency?

    Go short US$!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    The West is still buying Russian gas and oil so is in no position to criticise the three countries.

    Interesting too that India & China are going to be using LCS (local currency system) to buy the oil - bilateral trade using rouble/rupee & renminbi/rouble.

    The beginning of the end of the US$ as the global trade currency?

    Go short US$!
    China has just signed a $10 billion contract with Saudi Arabia to build refineries in China that will be supplied with Russian oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBmurc View Post
    China has just signed a $10 billion contract with Saudi Arabia to build refineries in China that will be supplied with Russian oil.
    Russian cost of oil production is estimated at between US$30 to US$40 so plenty of scope for oil price to fall back towards US$60 in the months ahead?

    China will be driving a hard bargain knowing how desperate Russia is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    One advantage of not being too ‘outspoken’ and condemning Russia eh
    Sure..as Putin's Russia lay waste to towns, starve residents, shoot fleeing families and target hospitals, schools and residential buildings, they look away. I wonder if they will make sure their history books remove condemnation of British imperialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Russian cost of oil production is estimated at between US$30 to US$40 so plenty of scope for oil price to fall back towards US$60 in the months ahead?

    China will be driving a hard bargain knowing how desperate Russia is.
    China may be the winner out of Western sanctions. The dictatorships may get cheap oil. The environment may get a load more pollution?
    Last edited by Bjauck; 15-03-2022 at 07:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    China may be the winner out of Western sanctions. The dictatorships may get cheap oil. The environment may get a load more pollution?
    If the West is deadly serious about really punishing Russia with sanctions, cut off all purchases of all oil, gas and minerals/metals like palladium & platinum from Russia.

    Until then, the West is hampered in imposing its will on the likes of India & China to not buy from Russia.

    The three countries are simply substituting oil from other countries with cheaper Russian oil - why would there be more pollution?
    Last edited by Balance; 15-03-2022 at 07:59 PM.

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