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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    banks and market starting to raise there terminal rate higher now 6% soon ?
    Assuming no more supply shocks an OCR of 5.5% could be the top. But it it will stay there for the rest of the year.

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    RBNZ leading the highest OCR since 2008, having increased 500 basis points in eleven hikes since August 2021; the fastest and largest monetary policy tightening on record.....

    I'm Gutted if only this latest rate rise was a week away ... have to convert a good chunk of AUD to NZD pay Mr IRD !!! ... just on todays spike in NZD will cost me $800 !!!
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    Still a way to go to get OCR to 8% …not that many years ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Still a way to go to get OCR to 8% …not that many years ago
    yeah back when we purchased a house its now more that tripled in value...and even more in rebuild cost to replace .... now match that up to incomes .... I can't see how NZ consumers could continue to keep above water with such high household debt levels at say 8%
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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    massive hawkish rbnz move 50 pt up

    orr wants to crush housing
    I guess he just wants to crush the wage - price spiral. Difficult if you work against a government which uses private company resources as ammunition to increase inflation by pushing the minimum wage up and up and up.

    They say never fight the FED, but maybe this is a case of never fight a government hell-bound to increase inflation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBmurc View Post
    yeah back when we purchased a house its now more that tripled in value...and even more in rebuild cost to replace .... now match that up to incomes .... I can't see how NZ consumers could continue to keep above water with such high household debt levels at say 8%
    Thats why exactly previous 8% levels will feel like 15% now ...so not possible ....but more Mr Orr plays to the galleries and make fun of Govt ...more soon the rates will " NEED " to come down ....

    Todays move is actually not bad for stocks ...as it brings the interest rate pivot led recovery much sooner ...

    From NZX perspective ...let Mr Orr deliver another 50 bips next meeting and then by last qtr our market will be rejoicing in full bloom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    RBNZ has no choice but to raise rates with this spendthrift Labour government pouring petrol on the inflation fire.

    Buckle your seat belt.
    Entirely predictable - this spendthrift government giveth and the RBNZ taketh.

    Mortgage holders get squashed and the worse is yet to come for them.

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    https://www.marketwatch.com/investin...countrycode=bx

    Big thumbs down from Bond markets ...OCR up, 10 year bond yield down ....it seems market does not care ...actual rates will not rise ...thats why RBNZ delivered 50 bips as otherwise actual rates wud have started declining ...which is too early as inflation still pretty high .
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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...EE2WZJ3RTCACI/

    Reserve Bank hikes Official Cash Rate to 5.25 per cent


    That wasn't very ORR-SOME - Adrian

    Fancy being known as the pr*ck who pushed Aotearoa into RECESSION
    and untold financial suffering by many out there.. ?

    You bought it on yourself .. Stupid stupid befuddled grandiose money shuffling twit
    many might be left thinking


    More of Gobbo Robbo's "Help Ease the pain" hand outs must be due out next week
    after this ?
    Last edited by nztx; 05-04-2023 at 07:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBmurc View Post
    yeah back when we purchased a house its now more that tripled in value...and even more in rebuild cost to replace .... now match that up to incomes .... I can't see how NZ consumers could continue to keep above water with such high household debt levels at say 8%
    More than trippled in 'price'

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