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01-09-2023, 02:43 PM
#15951
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Originally Posted by kiora
Yes MFT for long term portfolio. In my view bright horizon, not necessarily within the next year but 5-10 yr +
Management succession gets a big tick from me
Agree with that. I love the way you are just holding the super high quality stocks. I tend to (against my will) buy a lot of down on their luck but will turn around stocks. Do ok with this strategy but involves a lot more focus and analysis time..... and a bit of luck.
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01-09-2023, 02:48 PM
#15952
Thanks Leemsip. The way I look at it is not buying the shares but buying the company.
What company would I like to own for the long term?
Hence 80% portfolio IFT,20 % FPH
I do have the odd flutter on top. Usually the fluttering just reinforces that fluttering is crap for me.
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01-09-2023, 02:51 PM
#15953
Member
Originally Posted by kiora
Thanks Leemsip. The way I look at it is not buying the shares but buying the company.
What company would I like to own for the long term?
Hence 80% portfolio IFT,20 % FPH
I do have the odd flutter on top. Usually the fluttering just reinforces that fluttering is crap for me.
Recession coming so hopefully get to splash a big % of my cash (currently getting 5% in a TD) into the top quality - set and forget - companies at a discount.... Hmmmm live and hope eh
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01-09-2023, 03:07 PM
#15954
Member
I think we can waste a lot of time waiting to get top companies at a discount. If you are a long term investor just buy and forget.
Disc. IFT my biggest holding.
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01-09-2023, 03:09 PM
#15955
Member
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01-09-2023, 03:11 PM
#15956
Originally Posted by Leemsip
Recession coming so hopefully get to splash a big % of my cash (currently getting 5% in a TD) into the top quality - set and forget - companies at a discount.... Hmmmm live and hope eh
I think having a war chest of cash available at the moment is smart especially when you can get 5% on TD. As I have mentioned before and criticised for 🙄, I switched my Kiwisaver to cash 6 months or so ago and it's worked out well.
I am also looking to free up some more cash to be on standby if overall stocks go where I think they will.
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01-09-2023, 03:25 PM
#15957
Why US markets did not have any capitulation this time when Bull and many others were waiting for S&P 2800 ?
Main reason being all thought its coming so all cashed up and had to chase stocks up from 3500 to 3800 levels !!
Markets only rewards 20% not majority views most of the time ...
MFT has already sounded recession numbers in its trading update and market has already reacted to it ...
Now more chance it will bounce upwards on Nov results then more downwards
Yes if looking for last dominos like retail to fall then can wait few more months to buy HLG / TRA / KMD / WHS types
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01-09-2023, 03:32 PM
#15958
NZX50 change within first 100 days of an election for the past 30 years.
Looks like markets have done better seeing labour coming rather than going.
Election |
Date |
Winner |
NZX 50 change in first 100 days |
1990 |
October 27 |
National |
-1.2% |
1993 |
November 6 |
Labour |
5.9% |
1996 |
October 12 |
National |
3.2% |
1999 |
November 27 |
Labour |
1.6% |
2002 |
November 27 |
Labour |
0.2% |
2005 |
September 17 |
Labour |
8.5% |
2008 |
November 8 |
National |
-1.1% |
2011 |
November 26 |
National |
6.2% |
2014 |
September 20 |
National |
-10.2% |
2017 |
September 23 |
Labour |
11.5% |
2020 |
October 17 |
Labour |
1.1% |
Last edited by thegreatestben; 01-09-2023 at 03:36 PM.
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01-09-2023, 03:39 PM
#15959
Originally Posted by thegreatestben
NZX50 change within first 100 days of an election for the past 30 years.
Looks like markets have done better seeing labour coming rather than going.
Election |
Date |
Winner |
NZX 50 change in first 100 days |
1990 |
October 27 |
National |
-1.2% |
1993 |
November 6 |
Labour |
5.9% |
1996 |
October 12 |
National |
3.2% |
1999 |
November 27 |
Labour |
1.6% |
2002 |
November 27 |
National |
0.2% |
2005 |
September 17 |
Labour |
8.5% |
2008 |
November 8 |
National |
-1.1% |
2011 |
November 26 |
National |
6.2% |
2014 |
September 20 |
National |
-10.2% |
2017 |
September 23 |
Labour |
11.5% |
2020 |
October 17 |
Labour |
1.1% |
I agree that fear / uncertainty of election results is main reason why markets lack lustre at the moment or in limbo ...
After Oct it can come alive barring some very bad outcomes and real economy badly faltering ...small chance of that happening ...imo
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01-09-2023, 04:29 PM
#15960
Originally Posted by alokdhir
I agree that fear / uncertainty of election results is main reason why markets lack lustre at the moment or in limbo ...
After Oct it can come alive barring some very bad outcomes and real economy badly faltering ...small chance of that happening ...imo
.........and the 'blue chips' will take off .....quality wins out .....and Kingfish will be happy
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