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    Quote Originally Posted by Kay View Post
    Out of interest. Is there a defining point where a decline is labelled a "crash". Or is that media dependent?
    More than 20% down.

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    Thanks... And that would in the space of a week or so?

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    World financial system has stretched beyond the sustainable level. As a result of this, overheated markets are falling. In the meantime US dollar should stay firm. Stocks should follow commodity as well as Bit coin.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business...arkets-falling

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    S&P500 down 0.9% Year to Date

    Not too bad

    Dire Staits had a great song — Why Worry
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    yuk dow showing nearly a 1000pt fall again ffor tonight at the moment 4% fall now on open although long way to go yet , 8% fall in 2 days wow if it happens that could mean a 10% fall in nz tomorrow ? long way to go to tomorrow yet
    Maybe, but personally, given the global outlook looks ok and there is no compelling apparant cause for a heavy decline other than a month of strong gains, I doubt the NZX will be that badly hit. ASX is already levelling out after the opening plummet. Hopefully the US markets start to show some restraint before the end of their sessions. We might get a mini ASX like sell off, some immediate drops on opening then a slow recovery by end of the day. Frankly I think Waitangi Day was perfectly placed to deflect the worst of this storm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MARKETWINNER View Post
    World financial system has stretched beyond the sustainable level. As a result of this, overheated markets are falling. In the meantime US dollar should stay firm. Stocks should follow commodity as well as Bit coin.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business...arkets-falling
    This article is based on normal market control expectations - inflation rises, increase interest rates to counter it. But this is Trump we're talking about, he does everything people tell him not to and nothing they recommend. So there's every chance he will let inflation rise and leave rates where they are to the benefit of himself and friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorne Ranger View Post
    This article is based on normal market control expectations - inflation rises, increase interest rates to counter it. But this is Trump we're talking about, he does everything people tell him not to and nothing they recommend. So there's every chance he will let inflation rise and leave rates where they are to the benefit of himself and friends.
    Trump Isn't the Federal Reserve.

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    Yes Waitangi Day saved the NZX to a certain extent. Extended,overvalued markets are having sell-off and it is not abnormal. I also think NZ market will not hit that bad.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorne Ranger View Post
    Maybe, but personally, given the global outlook looks ok and there is no compelling apparant cause for a heavy decline other than a month of strong gains, I doubt the NZX will be that badly hit. ASX is already levelling out after the opening plummet. Hopefully the US markets start to show some restraint before the end of their sessions. We might get a mini ASX like sell off, some immediate drops on opening then a slow recovery by end of the day. Frankly I think Waitangi Day was perfectly placed to deflect the worst of this storm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    S&P500 down 0.9% Year to Date

    Not too bad

    Dire Staits had a great song — Why Worry
    They had a lot of great songs...unfortunately the Dow futures are providing a reason at this point to think correction this still has legs, currently trading at a fair value of more than 900 points lower again https://www.cnbc.com/pre-markets/
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