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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    You’ve been lucky to have been in the market for the last 10 years ... one of the better 10 years in history.

    As rankin/beagle say PE ratios could contract to more normal levels ...but usually over shoot on the down side. All this takes years.

    Secular bear markets (not price but a cycle of contracting PE ratio) are bad news for investors. Historically market PEs fall below 10 in secular bear markets ...even though the economy and earnings continue to grow.

    If we are to have a secular bear returns over the next 10 years will be very low. Some analyst have 10 future returns at close to 0% pa.

    Thus Yoda your 10% pa probably won’t happen over the next years and as you hinted you don’t want to lose your hard earned gains. Just do what you think is right with each stock you own and there’s no shame in holding cash.

    But then again it may be just a storm in a teacup at the moment — after all Trump has said the market has made a big mistake.
    It may well be a storm in a teacup--after all the whole administration over there is loaded in favor of big business,even at the expense of the people. but if you are sticking to logic I wouldnt put to much faith in your last statement--Trump is guided by ego ,not knowledge--He will say anything to protect it--the stock market is the best performing part of the shaky structure that holds him up (and extends the length of his ''hands'')
    Yellen has been at the helm through this whole rise--Trump replaced her simply because she came in under Obama,and shes a Democrat--So he is taking a chance on the new guy because he is a Republican.
    Meanwhile do we have faith in Steve Mnuchin to make decisions under pressure if things slide?---Its not a time to completely panic ,but your caution is well founded imo and if things do get hairy then an inexperienced admin. could really bungle things up--Trump will never lose his core group but those hoping for a better deal for their pay packet could see the emperor has no clothes after all.
    Theres already alot of anxiety over there as many (majority)look on in disbelief at what is happening --If things start to come unhinged Trump will take more extreme measures --Things happen fast over there so stay tuned.
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    Looks like 3% plus down on the DOW - 881 pts atp S&P and Nasdaq. DOW transport in correction territory already. Its an across the board unwinding.

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    wonder if friday, us falls another 3% to touch mondays flash lows
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    wow massive sell down in last minutes
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    Below tuesdays intra day low atm down 1000 pts, a rush for the exits on close.

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    Mark from Craig’s seems pretty happy

    Wonder if Mark has experienced a real market ‘correction’ or whatever you want to call it

    Mark Lister (@MarkListerNZ)
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    US shares officially in correction territory now. S&P500 closed 3.8% lower, and down 10.2% from the January peak. A much needed shakeout.
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Below tuesdays intra day low atm down 1000 pts, a rush for the exits on close.
    yes nice healthy correction , we can still fall more and still be plenty good havnt even tested 200 day yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    What really is volatility besides being the latest buzzword?
    Chemistry definition seems appropriate .....

    ........evaporating rapidly
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    cash is King. Your time has arrives skid?

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    Yawn, wake me up when the bots and game players have finished their latest round of" Game of Thrones"

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