Black Monday

[percy]

Remember the mantra, before infrastructure investment to recover an ailing economy, is start a war. The USA is good at that.

Most probably another USA Civil war.
Wonder whether it will be North verses South again,or East Coast verses West Coast this time.

[Baa_Baa]

Most probably another USA Civil war.
Wonder whether it will be North verses South again,or East Coast verses West Coast this time.

No, a civil war is not productive, it needs to be an international war that no one understands, but that they blindly accept (WMD anyone?) that the government lacky Fed can print endless supplies of money into fighting and by doing so recover the economy and Patriot support. History tells us this. Look back at how many enemies have been fabricated that when war was declared upon them, the money machines went into overdrive. Save the economy, start a war. History is full of it. Just look.

[NeverQuestion]

No, a civil war is not productive, it needs to be an international war that no one understands, but that they blindly accept (WMD anyone?) that the government lacky Fed can print endless supplies of money into fighting and by doing so recover the economy and Patriot support. History tells us this. Look back at how many enemies have been fabricated that when war was declared upon them, the money machines went into overdrive. Save the economy, start a war. History is full of it. Just look.

Ok, So this is a common myth. When people say we need another war, they should be thinking..What made America come out of two world wars as an economic powerhouse?! You have to understand that America entered both world wars late. They had entered it late, but they were supplying war materials to the rest of the allies well before. Countries who found their very existence threatened were all too willing to convert gold into war supplies to keep the fight going. It was the economic might of America, the tons of gold they made out of it, and the fact they were never seriously damaged by the war that made America what it is today. Yes, there was a depression prior. But you can't say that was why we need a war now. Things are different. The manufacturing might of the world is now China, not America as it once was. The last Iraq war cost American Tax payer 1.922 Trillion, and I very much doubt they made that much money out of it.

[BlackPeter]

Most probably another USA Civil war.
Wonder whether it will be North verses South again,or East Coast verses West Coast this time.

Nah - must be the coastal ring versus the flyover states ... or in other words the decent Americans against Trumps swamp.

[GOAT]

Impossible. Trump will not and can not cut ties to China.

Just ask yourself from where the liar in chief would source the red MAGA hats to distinguish his idiotic followers? They are made in China ...

Obviously - he would need as well to find quite fast new sources for clothes / car parts / medication / electronic components / cell phones and many other crucial products. Obviously - the idiot does not know that most of these things are produced in China, but his suffering country for sure would find out quite soon.

Fact check: Official 'Make America Great Again' hats are made in Louisiana and California.

[Balance]

Fact check: Official 'Make America Great Again' hats are made in Louisiana and California.

Not strictly true - caps are but not the hats & the other merchandise like T-shirts etc.

https://abcnews4.com/news/local/wher...rchandise-made

[moka]

im a bit rushed today so dont have much time today

ive said on this thread before about bring back int students , leverage our good covid position can be done other industries as well
invest in business start ups , no good doing all the retraining etc if no jobs later anyway
money should have been better targeted
eg last yr free study not first
tourism ad spending waste money
a lot of wage subsidy is just delaying the enevitable would have been better spent increasing job seeker

anyway lots more but im rushed today so enjoy your day

Thanks for posting Bull. Grant Robertson is in favour of bringing back international students when it is safe to do so.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12330457

Finance Minister Grant Robertson: Govt may open borders to international students. "While at the moment it is clearly not a time where people are going to be able to come in, if we continue with our success of getting on top of the virus, then that, along with Australia, marks us out as a place people will want to come to as an international student," he said. "It is an area of opportunity.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12330321
Govt considers reopening country for $5b international student industry. And Chris Hipkins says 'It's quite possible that we would be able to work with international education providers to manage a period of quarantine at the beginning of, say, a year's worth of study so they can come into New Zealand. 'That's something we're working through with the sector."

[BlackPeter]

Fact check: Official 'Make America Great Again' hats are made in Louisiana and California.

Well, I said MAGA hats, didn't I? They are made in China.

“Hats are made in China, shirts that come from overseas, but they get the labor done here, but it helps out either way,” said Granada.

from:
https://abcnews4.com/news/local/wher...rchandise-made

Maybe time you get your facts right?

[moka]

invest in business start ups , no good doing all the retraining etc if no jobs later anyway
money should have been better targeted
eg last yr free study not first
a lot of wage subsidy is just delaying the enevitable would have been better spent increasing job seeker

anyway lots more but im rushed today so enjoy your day

I'm pleased to see you support increasing Jobseeker benefit. The retraining package is targeted to where the need is. Good to see it includes apprentices. Education Minister Chris Hipkins said making targeted vocational training courses free – for all ages, not just school leavers – over the next two years will help people who have lost their jobs retrain and also allow new employees in some essential services to train on the job.
"It will include courses linked to industry skills needs, in building and construction, agriculture, and manufacturing, and also vocational courses like community health, counselling and care work. The fund will be available from 1 July 2020," he said. More than 100,000 students and apprentices look set to get free training for two years from July thanks to a $1.6 billion retraining package.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12332038

Agriculture Minister Damien O'Connor said the primary sector needed about 50,000 more workers and the funding would help place at least 10,000 people in jobs in the intermediate term.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...oint-6bn-boost

[GOAT]

Well, I said MAGA hats, didn't I? They are made in China.



from:
https://abcnews4.com/news/local/wher...rchandise-made

Maybe time you get your facts right?

You are incorrect. Those made in China are fake knock offs and not official MAGA hats.
https://apnews.com/afs:Content:6391630154
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/do...ump-hat-china/

Here is video evidence that they are being created in the USA. Can you show video evidence of official MAGA hats being created in China?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmpqYRkR9F8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE8M7cL00U4

The latter video, at the 5 minute mark addresses the argument of "Hats being made in China".