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    .65 Another all time high ! slowly and steadily does it .

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    I am completing the third leg of the NZ finance trifecta, by looking at the historic performance of Geneva as an investment over a two year period.
    I have just done an exercise checking out returns over the '30th September to 30th September' year. Why those dates? Because it gives time for the March 31st end of year result to be declared and digested by the market.

    Share Price Sept 30th 2015 Sept 30th 2016 Sept 30th 2017
    Geneva Finance Limited $0.31 $0.41 $0.58

    Income Received Sale of Rights CY Q2 Dividend (earned previous year) CY Q3 Dividend (earned previous year) CY Q4 Interim Dividend
    2015
    2016 1.5cps
    2017 2.0cps 1.0cps
    2018 ? cps

    Notes:

    1/ Financial Year Ends 31st March.
    2/ Income received in italics not earned in period following 30th September under consideration.

    Overall Share Growth 30/09/2015 to 30/09/2016

    $0.31 (1+g) = ($0.41 + 0.72x$0.015) => g = 36%

    Overall Share Growth 30/09/2016 to 30/09/2017

    $0.41 (1+g) = ($0.58 + 0.72x$0.02) => g = 45%

    Those are pretty impressive growth figures. No wonder you shareholders are smiling!

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    Another good half years result and its divi up 25% .

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    More good news for 2020

    Geneva Finance Half year pretax results up 44%



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    Goodness - Yet another Unimputed Dividend

    http://nzx-prod-s7fsd7f98s.s3-websit...362/372361.pdf

    Source: Accrued Income
    You'd think that sooner or later the Income would unaccrue itself, resulting some tax being paid
    so Dividends could start accumulating some fragments of Imputation Credits, or is it too early ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nztx View Post
    Goodness - Yet another Unimputed Dividend

    http://nzx-prod-s7fsd7f98s.s3-websit...362/372361.pdf



    You'd think that sooner or later the Income would unaccrue itself, resulting some tax being paid
    so Dividends could start accumulating some fragments of Imputation Credits, or is it too early ?
    The deferred taxation asset has been reduced to $3.0m at 31 March 2021. That's going to require slightly over $10m of pre-tax profits to fully utilise. With a Pretax profit of $8.2m in the year to March 2022 so its likely to be more than a year to go of no imputation credits. It could be longer if there are still some additional off-balance sheet tax losses.

    However, with your skills I'm pretty sure you already knew that as there were taxation assets on the balance sheet.

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    I haven't seen the latest AR but the 2021 AR had tax losses carried forward of $9.9m and zero imputation credits (per note 22 on page 37). I doubt they used all the tax losses in the latest financial year so we might see some taxes being paid and partial imputation credits on dividends in the year ended March 2023 at the earliest and possibly full IC's on dividends in the year ended March 2024.

    Edit: Sorry for the duplicated answer - I saw Scrunch's reply after I posted.
    Last edited by Ferg; 08-06-2022 at 09:39 PM. Reason: more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrunch View Post
    The deferred taxation asset has been reduced to $3.0m at 31 March 2021. That's going to require slightly over $10m of pre-tax profits to fully utilise. With a Pretax profit of $8.2m in the year to March 2022 so its likely to be more than a year to go of no imputation credits. It could be longer if there are still some additional off-balance sheet tax losses.

    However, with your skills I'm pretty sure you already knew that as there were taxation assets on the balance sheet.

    Thanks Scrunch .. these things may be worth a look in if economic factors in the goldfish bowl
    dont turn things really sour ahead..

    Thanks also - Ferg

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    Times seem tough in Geneva land

    Half year profit down 17%/20% on last year

    http://nzx-prod-s7fsd7f98s.s3-websit...808/406172.pdf

    The old release bad news at 5pm and hope nobody notices trick
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Times seem tough in Geneva land

    Half year profit down 17%/20% on last year

    http://nzx-prod-s7fsd7f98s.s3-websit...808/406172.pdf

    The old release bad news at 5pm and hope nobody notices trick

    A mysterious revelation from GFL .. most finance companies *would* absolutely more than recover increases in cost
    of funds from their captive targets at earliest .. Perhaps impairments are instead an issue ?

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