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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    I don't think the thesis that his supporters a primarily white-trash no-hopers is borne out by other studies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    I don't think the thesis that his supporters a primarily white-trash no-hopers is borne out by other studies.
    What thesis says that? Hoffman claims to have been among the fanatics, and that is what he claims to have found. He was not describing supporters at large.

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ump-s-n1253983

    So much for the 1,000 miles wall promised by the Fornicator.

    And Mexico has not paid a $ for the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    ....Hoffman .... was not describing supporters at large.
    But Bob Jones was

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    NZ Herald;

    "YouTube suspends Donald Trump's channel for at least a week."

    Does this mean Donald has been sent to the Googlag?

    Boop boop de do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    But Bob Jones was
    And he is bang on.

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    Three American lawmakers who had to shelter from the rampaging Trump-terrorists now have covid as they had to shelter with anti-masker Republican lawmakers who refused to wear masks while seeking refuge from the violent supporters, goaded by their Republican President who refused to accept the application of the US Constitution. Those lawmakers who did not wear masks while sheltering with others should be held accountable for their negligence.

    Republicans who did not vote to impeach the President are giving the fingers to the US Constitution and can never call themselves American Patriots again.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...watson-coleman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    Three American lawmakers who had to shelter from the rampaging Trump-terrorists now have covid as they had to shelter with anti-masker Republican lawmakers who refused to wear masks while seeking refuge from the violent supporters, goaded by their Republican President who refused to accept the application of the US Constitution. Those lawmakers who did not wear masks while sheltering with others should be held accountable for their negligence.

    Republicans who did not vote to impeach the President are giving the fingers to the US Constitution and can never call themselves American Patriots again.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...watson-coleman
    Gutless, greasy and sleazy Pence being the worst offender.,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    And he is bang on.
    If you stand in line with people queued up early to wait to get into a Trump rally you will find the same sort of people who queue up early for pretty much anything - people who are not working.

    Trump supporters are disproportionately white-European, male, evangelical christian and vanilla. These are the people who have seen their relative status decline over the last few decades due to western society's trend towards greater inclusion. They come from all economic groups. Their anger is a flame fanned by Trump which will flutter out in time as they are not actually a disadvantaged group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Gutless, greasy and sleazy Pence being the worst offender.,
    The best analogy I heard today :

    "For 4 years the Republicans have been accomplices providing fuel to an arsonist, enabling Trump to fan the flames of hate, discord and anarchy.

    Now they are turning around and saying, let's forget about the fuel and let's just put out the fire. Neither the arsonist nor are we are to be blamed!'

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    Outcasts - supporters of the Fornicator are finding out and that's before their legal and court problems.

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/re...05ca94921d3d96

    "Following her “American patriots” tweet, Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner “need not apply” to the upscale Indian Creek Country Club near their $30 million plot of land on the exclusive Florida island nicknamed “The Billionaire’s Bunker”.

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    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5...b65671988afa5d

    Hope the rioters turn up on 20th January in Washington.

    Let’s see how brave they are and how many of the scums-of-the-earth are really prepared to die for the Fornicator.

    My guess? Not one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5...b65671988afa5d

    Hope the rioters turn up on 20th January in Washington.

    Let’s see how brave they are and how many of the scums-of-the-earth are really prepared to die for the Fornicator.

    My guess? Not one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Incitement to violence? No - it’s a challenge.
    Well it's past the sniff test of the great moderator, left field, so this instead..............

    BoJo-Dump.jpg

    Boris could do a swap to rescue his buddy.
    Trade Julian Assange for Trump. Traitor swap. Win Win for the UK and USA, at the expense of free speech, democracy, freedom and justice.
    Put Trump in the Tower of London, home of traitors. Be a great attraction for visitors from the USA. Charge them a few quid and rescue the UK
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    EDIT::: Swap Julian Assange for Snowden. Assange is in cold damp storage and can be readily delivered up to Sleepy Creepy Joe, BoJo's soon to be, new, best buddy as an early National Security achievement, cementing the Special Relationship.
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    "There is something wrong with a regime that requires a pyramid of corpses every few years." George Orwell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greater fool View Post
    This has all the appearance to me of an incitement to violence. Precisely what you deplore POTUS #45 for.
    Incitement to violence?

    No - it’s a challenge to the rioters who are cowards imo.

    The rioters are the ones who are on social media, saying that they do not fear the ring of steel put around Washington and they are not going to be deterred from exercising their rights to overturn the election results - ‘freedom or death’.

    I am happy to see if they are true to their word or like the Fornicator, they are full of scum and empty rhetoric.
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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/pen...UI525ZBRBBTMI/

    Paywalled

    Guess the fly on Pence’s hair told him a thing or two about integrity and doing the right thing.

    Excerpt : "The loyal lieutenant who had almost never diverged from the president, who had finessed every other possible fracture, finally came to a decision point he could not avoid. He would uphold the election despite the president and despite the mob. And he would pay the price with the political base he once hoped to harness for his own run for the White House."
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    https://www.news.com.au/world/north-...74a1690dc06304

    A man whose word means nothing - confirmation aplenty of a conman and shyster of the highest order.

    This is the Fornicator at his ‘best’ - reneging on what he said last week, attacking the very same people he ‘loved’ last week and denying everything.

    "....... it showed a stark change in tone from his message to Americans before and during last week’s riots.
    Last week, he addressed the protesters in that video saying, “We love you” and “You’re very special.” In his message today, he has attacked them.
    “Mob violence goes against everything I believe in and everything our movement stands for,” Mr Trump said in his new video. “No true supporters of mine could ever endorse political violence."

    And yes, there are still morons snd retards in the Republican Party who still support him.

    LOCK HIM UP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by greater fool View Post
    Well it's past the sniff test of the great moderator, left field, so this instead..............

    BoJo-Dump.jpg

    Boris could do a swap to rescue his buddy.
    Trade Edward Snowden for Trump. Traitor swap. Win Win for the UK and USA, at the expense of free speech, democracy, freedom and justice.
    Put Trump in the Tower of London, home of traitors. Be a great attraction for visitors from the USA. Charge them a few quid and rescue the UK
    economy.
    I am surprised it was passed by the moderator too.

    Johnson still thinks that Trump should get the Nobel Peace Prize. Incredible. Perhaps it shows the alternative reality these leaders inhabit? Of course they both have similar "respect" for their countries' constitutions and have stoked divisions to try to achieve their agenda. It seems too that they have also been swapping notes on blame-shifting.

    Boris Johnson has stood by by his claim that outgoing US president Donald Trump deserves to win a Nobel Peace Prize.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1786789.html
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    20,000 soldiers stationed in Washington so far with more to arrive before 20th Jan.

    And of course the Fornicator is ‘urging’ his supporters to be peaceful (after egging them on last week to commit insurrection and riots) - knowing full well his scum filled cowardly supporters are not going to turn up anyway.

    What a pity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    20,000 soldiers stationed in Washington so far with more to arrive before 20th Jan.

    And of course the Fornicator is ‘urging’ his supporters to be peaceful (after egging them on last week to commit insurrection and riots) - knowing full well his scum filled cowardly supporters are not going to turn up anyway.

    What a pity.
    You might be surprised how many turn up where. . . . and can you have a President without an Inauguration?

    The project proceeds. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTM 3442 View Post
    You might be surprised how many turn up where. . . . and can you have a President without an Inauguration?

    The project proceeds. . .
    Does the inauguration have to be public and/or publicly notified? Surely a bit of a get together at the local boozer with a couple of witnesses and extra bar-staff to clear the empties is all that is needed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...0second%20term.

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