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    Quote Originally Posted by Entrep View Post
    *blockchain. And why not? Seriously
    Thats not what was said. Here it is "
    voting systems are all going to be crypto"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrewd Crude View Post
    ...crypto has gone up 3000% did I say last year...

    ...head....
    it needs to be pulled in mate...
    So Rude Crude Dude did you achieve 3000% gain?

    What do you think of the way that Car Vertical actually uses blockchain?
    Do you reckon Vinchain is a better or worse gamble?
    What happened to the other car history coins?

    Have you worked out who the patsy is yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    Thats not what was said. Here it is "
    voting systems are all going to be crypto"
    Exactly. As much as Shrewd Crude is constantly going on about researching coins, I just really don't think he get's it. Or just has heaps of free time and love trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrewd Crude View Post
    rep you are way off dude...
    waaaaayyyyyy off......
    you and many of the others continue to mumble and bumble when it comes to crypto.... this is not financial markets don't try to value it like that !.....
    there is potential huge application for crypto products across all industry from the banking system through to end users... voting systems are all going to be crypto... large firms paying hundreds and thousands of workers will be paid in crypto, and monitored by crypto.... then you convert crypto for goods and services or convert to currency at fraction of the cost... crypto currency is the next future tier to our evolution and the digital age is just intensifing more around it...
    I think you and the others really need to wake up and quit pointing fingers and look hard at yourselves...
    none of you have even looked into application of crypto and how it will change the world forever...

    !!!

    crypto has fallen 80 90% off the peaks at least 3 times before ! so does this make cryptocurrency 4 dotcom busts?
    crypto is far from done... far from it.... crypto just goes higher and higher over the years and you all stand around looking to point the finger over any blimp...
    sure crypto had fallen so heavy but it went up so so much more before that while you were all still whining about crypto this and that...
    crypto has gone up 3000% did I say last year... minimoke and black peter were all about the collapse of bitcoin when it was $1000... its now $6.5k and they still whimpering about how much crypto has fallen... mate, it hasnt fallen its gone up and way up over the years...
    we are at the cutting edge of human evolution... we all want crypto just some dont know it yet...


    head....
    it needs to be pulled in mate...
    Dogma Q.E.D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tga_trader View Post
    Exactly. As much as Shrewd Crude is constantly going on about researching coins, I just really don't think he get's it. Or just has heaps of free time and love trolling.
    Shrewdy is a very confused person - continously mixes crypto and blockchain up.
    Crypto could be used for a whole lot of things like paying wages but only if it was stable.
    When it is stable it will be like the $ (a stable one) so you won't get the big gains (or losses) and it will no longer be something to crow about.
    When the Crypto people get the currency they so want it will be boring so they will all leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrewd Crude View Post
    crypto is far from done... far from it.... crypto just goes higher and higher over the years and you all stand around looking to point the finger over any blimp...
    Why will it go higher and higher?
    If it was a valid currency what would be the point in it if it changes value so much? Who would want to get paid in something that changes value before you even get it in your pocket?
    If you got paid in bitchoin you would be paid x bitcoin - not x$ worth of bitcoin - bugger that!

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    Blockchain is an interesting technology with lots of potential benefits - for data, for traceability of supply chain, authentication particularly for often counterfeited items including food.

    But anyone who has a passing knowledge of the Gartner Hype Cycle will note where on the emerging technologies block chain sits on this yearís Hype Cycle - more or less at the peak of inflated expectations.

    https://www.gartner.com/smarterwithg...nologies-2018/

    The trouble with fanatical dogma is that any item of counter evidence is dismissed. No-one really wants to be paid with an exchange that isnít certain in value - volatile currencies or investments inherently have to return significantly more than the risk free rate due to the risks associated with value - that underlies the capital asset pricing model.

    The bulwark of cheap money at historically low interest rates is driving up asset prices everywhere (eg housing) so speculative GFT opportunities also have to sustain higher returns to mitigate the risk. A change to the interest rate environment globally is going to leave a lot of emperors in new clothes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rep View Post
    Blockchain is an interesting technology with lots of potential benefits - for data, for traceability of supply chain, authentication particularly for often counterfeited items including food.

    But anyone who has a passing knowledge of the Gartner Hype Cycle will note where on the emerging technologies block chain sits on this yearís Hype Cycle - more or less at the peak of inflated expectations.

    https://www.gartner.com/smarterwithg...nologies-2018/

    The trouble with fanatical dogma is that any item of counter evidence is dismissed. No-one really wants to be paid with an exchange that isnít certain in value - volatile currencies or investments inherently have to return significantly more than the risk free rate due to the risks associated with value - that underlies the capital asset pricing model.

    The bulwark of cheap money at historically low interest rates is driving up asset prices everywhere (eg housing) so speculative GFT opportunities also have to sustain higher returns to mitigate the risk. A change to the interest rate environment globally is going to leave a lot of emperors in new clothes...
    Look buzz....
    I had a quick look at your article.... choice man... first of all crypto ain't no uber ride !... crypto encompasses everything... every industry integrating total supply chains top to bottom supplier to customer from financing and cash flows of all money supply... manufactoring goods and services from vertical integration to horizontal integration... crypto is not no cab ride example or new iPhone10 this is about everything... ok.....
    When one starts to even mention tulips then yup you know they are twisted.... this is because crypto is everything !!

    Actually on your chart crypto in my opinion is in the trough of disillusionment and closer towards augumented reality...
    Lots of big players this week came out and called this the bottom....
    this ain't no fade or bubble.. crypto has gone down by 90% 4 times before making this downswing 4 dotcom bubbles already....

    Doesnt this alone suggest that crypto alone is like nothing we have ever seen before?...
    I think so....!


    People are saying well is it crypto or is it blockchain?...
    Well... for me its crypto really...
    It will be crypto that will get the contracts to execute these deals... governments and big business and banks partner with crypto... this is the theme so far... govt and corporations will eventually create their own crypto....
    Remember crypto done all this without wallstreet and governments... imagine what will happen when wallstreet actually comes in .. last week goldman Sachs pulled out of crypto but secretly behind the scenes they are piling up crypto reserves for the next bullrun...
    Also... in China there is huge interest in crypto and China is gobbling up crypto in a big way.... China has regulated so only icos coming under the NEO framework are legal... red pulse... loopring... thekey are some of my favourite Chinese cryptos....
    Crypto is the most promising investment vehicle I've ever seen...none of these sharetrader doubters even you rep have come up with any real compelling arguments against crypto......

    Minimoke and co calling bitcoin topping out at 1k says it all really.. upside umop was tripping up at primary school skip rope when bitcoin was $300 and hes still saying the same thing now 6 years later even ridiculously shorting his shorts into undies on btc...
    None of these posters have done any real research on any of the major cryptos...
    None of them not even 1 have debated arguments against dash or neo or ethereum saying hey I'm concerned that ripple is this or that...
    It's all pretty much a stalemate here...
    We have a 200 billion dollar industry suggesting these guys are still in fairly land...

    Rep...
    Come on in for a pep talk...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrewd Crude View Post
    It's all pretty much a stalemate here...
    We have a 200 billion dollar industry suggesting these guys are still in fairly land...
    ..
    Shame it was an $800b industry at the beginning of the year and heading back to where it was a year ago. Even with China and Goldman Sachs apparently gobbling up as much as they can

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrewd Crude View Post
    With inflation running at 35% its probably a toss up, as a consumer to use bitocoin or credit card peso.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrewd Crude View Post
    Look buzz....
    I had a quick look at your article.... choice man... first of all crypto ain't no uber ride !...
    Quote Originally Posted by Shrewd Crude View Post
    You have to admire a poster who so thoroughly contradicts himself in consecutive posts .

    That irony coin of mine is going ballistic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow Leopard View Post
    You have to admire a poster who so thoroughly contradicts himself in consecutive posts .

    That irony coin of mine is going ballistic!
    The problem with IRONIBIT, or iron-ebit for us techy types, is that the blockchain becomes unhinged, enabling it to run, rampant, with no blocks in the chain of ever increasing bewilderment. Where will it end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow Leopard View Post
    You have to admire a poster who so thoroughly contradicts himself in consecutive posts .

    That irony coin of mine is going ballistic!
    Well Gartner is a fairly well regarded organisation so despite SC having his own opinion about where on the hype curve blockchain belongs, I'll stick with Gartner's one they have a pretty good track record over decades of reading where this stuff sits. Again the contradictions, the triumphant fist pumping at any tiny shred of potential hope is the last bastion of those chained to dogma. He's not alone - gold bugs still deny that the Greater Fool Theory applies to them as well - if a meteorite was dug out of the Simpson Desert that contained a literal mountain of gold debasing it's value due to the removal of scarcity, gold bugs would be demanding a return to the gold standard and departure from fiat currency. Well if we have to depart from the fiat currency paradigm then those gold bugs will have a @%^& more to worry about than their personal stash of gold suddenly making them wealthy

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    Default ripple at 32 cent

    Ripple is a coin worthy of a mention... its the 3rd largest crypto by market cap... This is the crypto that will become majorly popular with large banks because it is centralised, thus meaning it will fit and mold better to regulation and systems in the real world like accounting standards and audit standards......the main purpose of Ripple is to move lots of money around the world as rapidly as possible, increasing liquidity and of course far less cost than other method... and in real time anywhere in the world, more securely with the highest of integrity......

    sure minimoke who just wants a debit visa for some International holidays here and there and some spending money.....crypto might not necessarily be a requirement for him.... just yet anyway.... !

    what about multi national corporations with thousands of employees all over the World?
    money flows can quickly becoming a logistical nightmare...
    so crypto will fill many benefits to business, economy, financial systems, governements, companies, multi nationals... and also benefit the framework to those systems like capitalmarkets, foreign exchange markets, bond markets, spot market, derivatives market, general cashflow, liquidity, debt and so on....
    this is kind of like another layer to everything....
    crypto is going to be huge...
    even if Crypto only does a fraction of what I suggest will still see huge returns...

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