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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    They'd have to be super-powerful.
    I thought hallucinogenics of that quality were illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    Did you get some new drugs for Christmas or something?
    I suppose if this keeps you from getting depressed about your hopeless situation and doing something silly to yourself then all good.
    I don't think my body could handle the amount of DRUGS I'd need to agree with Shrewdy that investing large in the cryptos was a smart long term plan.......
    People don't have ideas, ideas have people

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    Lol jbmurc
    Crypto has been one of the grestest ever investment returns over the long term... you have gone and bumped your head...
    Cryptocurrency holdings in utrust cardano and power ledger... ripple... neo.... .....LOCI ...
    Market capitalisation 130billion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrewd Crude View Post
    Lol jbmurc
    Crypto has been one of the grestest ever investment returns over the long term... you have gone and bumped your head...
    You sound like Trump - got any proof of that or is it the drugs talking again?

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    An explanation of Crypto, buy Jerry Wang of MIT.. Well worth a watch if you have a few spare minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNOLQGk7QLk?t=5
    Last edited by Vagabond47; 10-01-2019 at 11:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    You sound like Trump - got any proof of that or is it the drugs talking again?
    Dobby,
    Of course theres proof you are just too lazy to do any real research at all.... as I said in previous posts you are a puppet of the centralised who have spread fear in 2018 to collapse crypto to buy cheap... and then they will turn pro crypto and it will boom again......
    ...as per your query yes of course there is evidence....
    the first traded bitcoin was at $.003 in march 2010... funny enough before that there was a user named "smoked too much" that tried to auction 10,000 bitcoins for $50 and there were no buyers...
    And dobby... I can tell you one thing... I am not smoked too much...lol

    I doubt dobby is capable of calculating any numbers because if he could he wouldnt debate it

    Bitcoin is trading at $ 3850us if it were trading at $3000us where I believe it will get then that would be a whopping market return of 100,000,000% return...
    Dobby for you... that is one hundred million percent return... if you put down $1 in march 2010 it would be worth $1,283,320.5 us...
    Or dobby for you one million two hundred and eighty thousand us dollars...
    ...
    Go on then buzz...
    Show me anything tradeable returning more than that?
    ....
    ??????
    Cryptocurrency holdings in utrust cardano and power ledger... ripple... neo.... .....LOCI ...
    Market capitalisation 130billion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrewd Crude View Post
    the first traded bitcoin was at $.003 in march 2010... funny enough before that there was a user named "smoked too much" that tried to auction 10,000 bitcoins for $50 and there were no buyers...
    And dobby... I can tell you one thing... I am not smoked too much...lol

    I doubt dobby is capable of calculating any numbers because if he could he wouldnt debate it

    Bitcoin is trading at $ 3850us if it were trading at $3000us where I believe it will get then that would be a whopping market return of 100,000,000% return...
    Dobby for you... that is one hundred million percent return... if you put down $1 in march 2010 it would be worth $1,283,320.5 us...
    Or dobby for you one million two hundred and eighty thousand us dollars...
    ...
    Unfortunately I don't have a time machine.
    Did you get a dollar down in March 2010? Pity!
    How much money has it made you - real $?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrewd Crude View Post
    ... if you put down $1 in march 2010 it would be worth $1,283,320.5 us...
    Sadly the Coinmarket charts dont go back to 2010. But they do go back to 2013 when bitcoin was around $135. But back then daily trade volumes were around zero. So hard to buy one. And a risky buy when buying in an illiquid market.

    Reliable volume didn't really kick in until around mid Oct 2107 when Bitcoin was trading at $5,500. Since then you would have had no problem buying or selling. Trouble is if you bought and held you would have lost loads. Only a couple of G on todays $3,666 value. But imagine if you had bought when there was loads of interest at $15,000 or more

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    I caught up with a friend over the Christmas/New Year holiday who had been living down in Johor Bahru and commuting daily into Singapore (a lot of people do this) where he was working as a programmer for a block-chain startup.

    The startup lasted 7 months before the funds ran out with the high-tech industry revolutionizing approach having failed to revolutionize the industry even a little.

    But he had fun while it lasted, has some interesting stories to tell and made some real money doing it.
    om mani peme hum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrewd Crude View Post
    TIME MAGIZINE - BITCOIN DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE A WORLD PRIORITY....

    https://bitcoinist.com/time-magazine-bitcoin-freedom/

    !!!!
    Mean while on sharetrader at the circus... the puppet show is just about to start starring a lofty list of sharetrader posters gone aloof
    "...it has the potential to make a real difference for the 4 billion people who can’t trust their rulers or who can’t access the banking system,” it wrote December 28.."

    Or the people could force democratic elections and use the model that the rest of the world use? Bitcoin will not ever be used in the way he portrays with it's volatility, transaction costs and security risks.

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    TIME has also not always treated crypto so favorably. As recently as October, it claimed Bitcoin was “only making it worse” specifically for women to access banking services. It has also delivered controversial statements about the sector, including describing blockchain as crypto’s “more respectable cousin.”

    This is true. Also, it's only one journalist who has proposed an old idea that Crypto could save the developing world.

    Unfortunately, it won't.
    By the way - it's upside_down, not upside_umop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shrewd Crude View Post
    WOW PEEPS....
    Pretty strong news came out yesterday ... one of the top rating Rating agency Weiss came out yesterday and said bitcoin will surpass all time highs of near $19000us and IN 2019... !!!!
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    Here is the overall facts as reported by the Worlds elite rating agency Weiss Investment Ratings - 2019 predictions for Bitcoin & Crytpo.

    #1 Bitcoin will be increasingly used as a store of value.

    #2 The price of Bitcoin will rise again and head for new all-time highs.

    #3 Select altcoins will rise from relative obscurity to as much as 20 times their previous all-time highs.

    #4 A select group of cryptos will compete to build a new kind of internet.

    #5 Another select group of cryptocurrencies will disrupt the world of banking.

    #6 Bitcoin me-too coins will fade away.

    #7 New coins will rocket to the top 10.

    Here is the link to the article

    https://micky.com.au/ratings-agency-...highs-in-2019/

    ......
    Yout got to watch those links I posted before... and watch suppoman on youtube this is exactly how I see this playing out.... i will explain more...
    After the suppoman videos we have really started to see things happen and already got sniffs of the centralised world pushing for crypto after a huge year of publicised fud and fear just so they could buy crypto cheap and then eventually they will dump it on us all over again... major wallstreet banks, george sorros, warren buffet they are all entering....
    Not surprising crypto taking off again today with weiss on the patrol....


    The market view was still overwhelming view of bitcoin and crypto to fall to the 3kus and even 2k us range before it takes off next....
    With another cat out of the bag and possibly an early bull trampling that this next bull could quite possibly be even more devastating that the last one....
    Wow....

    These negaitve posters are straight up delusional about crypto and what it stands for...
    These posters have well and truely taken to the fud and fear spread by the centralised so that they wouldnt buy and that the centralised would....
    These posters are the true pawns in this game....
    So now that the centralised which is like the governments, the big corporations (there are basically 10 giant corporations that run earth), this includes the financial elite who are doing everything to remain rich and in control of you and me and all for money.... they do this by controling the media news flows, and the TV to shape your views ....

    So in 2019 we will absolutely see the centralised news flows to change... we will see those EFTS come in... we will see governments and more corporations start their own crypto and the total support... we will see governments back crypto and the news flow will change... because at this point they are alrwad loaded up and they intend to make that savage cash.. at that point the jbmurcs and dobbys and snow leopards will be like oh my gosh crypto is s****y as... then the centralised will dump it all on us again... rinse and repeat....
    Its a cruel world we live in just got to be in and ahead of the game.... watch the thread for all the latest shrewd reports.... the negative posters couldnt be more wrong about where crypto is going.... its so embarrasing... pull your head in... wheres black peter at????
    SC,
    As you know, this is also BS.

    "one of the top rating Rating agency Weiss came out yesterday and said bitcoin will surpass all time highs of near $19000us and IN 2019... !!!!"

    So, I have never heard of Weiss as a rating agency - to me the top ones is S&P, Moody's, Fitch, A M Best etc. So I did a google search and found the following:
    - Weiss does not register in the top 10. Let alone, it doesn't register on any lists I reviewed.
    - The "big 3' have c 95% market share.

    I had a look at their website and twitter account (which was set up recently) and it's clear they are trying to diversify into something else through crypto currencies - I mean, why not? They have no market share and therefore no reputational damage to suffer and they will know the crypto fanboys will lap this up. Smart move by them but the fools are people who believe them.


    Their website for the crypto currency ratings -
    https://weisscryptocurrencyratings.com

    Their website for credit and investment ratings -
    https://weissratings.com

    Not your typical websites for a rating agency and seems very.....amateur?

    Anyway, crypto tends toward nil. Stable, govt controlled, blockchain currency may eventually lead the way.
    By the way - it's upside_down, not upside_umop

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    Quote Originally Posted by upside_umop View Post
    SC,
    As you know, this is also BS.

    "one of the top rating Rating agency Weiss came out yesterday and said bitcoin will surpass all time highs of near $19000us and IN 2019... !!!!"

    So, I have never heard of Weiss as a rating agency - to me the top ones is S&P, Moody's, Fitch, A M Best etc. So I did a google search and found the following:
    - Weiss does not register in the top 10. Let alone, it doesn't register on any lists I reviewed.
    - The "big 3' have c 95% market share.

    I had a look at their website and twitter account (which was set up recently) and it's clear they are trying to diversify into something else through crypto currencies - I mean, why not? They have no market share and therefore no reputational damage to suffer and they will know the crypto fanboys will lap this up. Smart move by them but the fools are people who believe them.


    Their website for the crypto currency ratings -
    https://weisscryptocurrencyratings.com

    Their website for credit and investment ratings -
    https://weissratings.com

    Not your typical websites for a rating agency and seems very.....amateur?

    Anyway, crypto tends toward nil. Stable, govt controlled, blockchain currency may eventually lead the way.
    Spoil sport.
    Get with the picture - if the crypto boys (and gals) say something is - it is!

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    What have you been up to SC?

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    A "significant amount" of cryptocurrency is thought to have been transferred without authorisation at the Christchurch trading company Cryptopia. A police statement said officers were advised late on Tuesday of "an issue involving potential unauthorised transaction activity". Police were taking the matter "very seriously", the statement said. "We are currently talking to the company to gain a further understanding of what has occurred.
    "A dedicated investigation team is being established in Christchurch including specialist police staff with expertise in this area." Police said the investigation was still in its "very early" stages, but an update was expected on Thursday."

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    Quote Originally Posted by minimoke View Post
    What have you been up to SC?

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    A "significant amount" of cryptocurrency is thought to have been transferred without authorisation at the Christchurch trading company Cryptopia. A police statement said officers were advised late on Tuesday of "an issue involving potential unauthorised transaction activity". Police were taking the matter "very seriously", the statement said. "We are currently talking to the company to gain a further understanding of what has occurred.
    "A dedicated investigation team is being established in Christchurch including specialist police staff with expertise in this area." Police said the investigation was still in its "very early" stages, but an update was expected on Thursday."
    I wonder what they class as "significant"?

    Dumb crime, by the time they get out of jail their bitcoin will probably be worthless.

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