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    OK. Newby question...
    on 26/10/17 there's a trading halt on BIL. TLL share price around the $2.54 mark. BUT suddenly the shares on TLL are around the $5 mark.
    I get doled out my two pennorth of shares in TLL (because I hold Bethunes). I then discover I have paid $5.07 for the TLL.
    On 7/12/17 Trading halt lifted and the shares go back down about $2.75

    How does that work? Obviously it works to someone else's advantage, not the Bethunes shareholders! :-(
    Last edited by Jerry; 10-12-2017 at 01:38 PM. Reason: accuracy

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    Jerry ......whatever has happened it seems $2.75 being Friday close is a pretty good price for something they thought was only $1.50.

    Not a BIL/TLL shareholder
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    Yes, and I would have been better pleased to pay $2.75 for them rather than be force-fed them at $5.07.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yes, and I would have been better pleased to pay $2.75 for them rather than be force-fed them at $5.07.
    How did you pay $5.07 for your TLL shares?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    OK. Newby question...
    on 26/10/17 there's a trading halt on BIL. TLL share price around the $2.54 mark. BUT suddenly the shares on TLL are around the $5 mark.
    I get doled out my two pennorth of shares in TLL (because I hold Bethunes). I then discover I have paid $5.07 for the TLL.
    On 7/12/17 Trading halt lifted and the shares go back down about $2.75

    How does that work? Obviously it works to someone else's advantage, not the Bethunes shareholders! :-(
    Jerry, you were notified this was going to happen!


    Quote Originally Posted by hardt View Post
    115,060,279 Shares in BIL outstanding
    $0.019 a share
    254.19 to 1 consolidation translates to $4.83 per share
    452,654 shares after consolidation for current BIL shareholders
    73,000,000 shares will then be issued at around $1.50
    Rest will be made up through banking facilities and wholesale investors.

    Current BIL holders will end up owning 0.614% of Transport Investments which is valued at $200m.
    =$2.186m current BIL
    =$200m*0.00614
    =$1.228m equity in TIL
    =43.82% "premium"

    I will most certainly not be a buyer of BIL... possibly Transport Investments though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    How did you pay $5.07 for your TLL shares?
    He must have bought BIL at 2 cents...
    Last edited by hardt; 10-12-2017 at 07:46 PM.

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    Thank you Hardt, I see your post now. A very clear explanation.
    Not unhappy to have shares in TLL, though there is not much detail in the Listing Profile as to give guidance on the intrinsic value of shares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Thank you Hardt, I see your post now. A very clear explanation.
    Not unhappy to have shares in TLL, though there is not much detail in the Listing Profile as to give guidance on the intrinsic value of shares.
    http://www.til.kiwi/uploads/FINAL%20...esentation.pdf

    2 years have been forecast

    Revenue growth at 1.8% CAGR
    Earnings growth at 46.6% CAGR

    Earnings Multiple

    TTM 43.92
    FY18E 26.29
    FY19E 20.36

    Dividend coming in FY19... at current mkt cap will yield 2.6%.
    Last edited by hardt; 11-12-2017 at 07:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardt View Post
    http://www.til.kiwi/uploads/FINAL%20...esentation.pdf

    2 years have been forecast

    Revenue growth at 1.8% CAGR
    Earnings growth at 46.6% CAGR

    Earnings Multiple

    TTM 43.92
    FY18E 26.29
    FY19E 20.36

    Dividend coming in FY19... at current mkt cap will yield 2.6%.
    F18 PE about the same as Mainfreight ......
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    Markets often don’t like these sort of things - However, the full year result is expected to be below PFI, due to some headwinds and a few unanticipated operational factors not included in the PFI forecasts.

    https://www.nzx.com/announcements/320563
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