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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Optimist View Post
    I can't seem to get an updated result for this 2017. When I go into the rankings it is months old.
    What am I doing wrong. Cheers
    Paper Tiger does updating. Try this

    https://papertiger.asia/st2017/
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Paper Tiger does updating. Try this

    https://papertiger.asia/st2017/
    I believe this is this is testimony to the benefits of being a well informed participant on ST. A mid field performance at 106th place gained 31.5% and I believe the NZX50 is up just 23% by comparison. (Haven't looked at performance relative to other indices movements.)
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    NZX = 22.2%. Have just done the calc for my own purposes!

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    Congrats to all 130 participants who beat the NZX50, well done, give yourself a pat on the back and the hound would like to extend sympathy to his fellow Beagle Snoopy who only just missed the cut.
    Last edited by Beagle; 29-12-2017 at 03:15 PM.
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    And Balance deserves a special mention ...he set out to come last and lose the most and come last he did.

    It does take an awful lot of skill to pick the likes of the NZO, PEB, CGL, SEA and VIL - all perennial losers - knowing that if one came ‘right’ he wouldn’t be last.

    Well done Balance me old mate

    Addition - was another update since I posted and Balance was pipped at the post and was only second last. Never mind ..you still a hero mate
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    Smile The Race is Finally Run

    The rules said that the competition ends with the close of trade on the last trading day of the year...
    ...which is/was today.

    So these are the official results:

    2017 NZX Stock Picking Contest

    Updated: Fri, 29 Dec 17
    Rank Name Selections % Gain
    1 Thor SKO PPH SML AIR CEN 197.88%
    2 Wetfish SKO PPH THL TRA EVO 166.24%
    3 Kaybee SKO TRU ARV TRA MOA 126.14%
    4 blobbles ATM PPH XRO AIR HBL 117.88%
    5 JK ATM PPH FPH THL RYM 116.92%
    6 MPC ATM SML XRO AIR SUM 111.78%
    7 Parrot ATM SML RBD HBL SCL 110.25%
    8 Top Dog ATM FPH THL AIR HBL 103.48%
    9 bohemian ATM FPH THL AIR SCL 103.01%
    10 Bosse1 ATM ERD XRO IFT WDT 101.95%
    11 Awesome ATM SML AIR MFT ARV 97.89%
    12 Roadrunner ATM PPH XRO ARV CBL 94.83%
    13 see weed ATM THL AIR HLG IFT 93.01%
    14 JeremyALD ATM THL RBD HLG IFT 92.06%
    15 LadyGrey ATM PPH AIR HBL BLT 91.14%
    16 Everwood ATM PPH XRO TIL MOA 90.58%
    17 Scooter ATM THL RBD RYM CVT 87.49%
    18 BigBob ATM NTL NZO RBC PEB 86.77%
    19 bear ATM XRO HBL CEN AIA 86.55%
    20 rooster ATM FPH RYM SUM FMS 83.50%
    21 AE PPH SML FPH THL CEN 83.41%
    22 Yoda ATM NTL THL BLT PIL 82.73%
    23 waikare ATM FPH HLG PGW TIL 82.62%
    24 Felonius NTL PPH HBL HLG MCK 82.00%
    25 stef ATM FPH THL HBL BLT 81.11%
    26 upstart PPH ERD XRO AIR IFT 81.04%
    27 Haewai NTL PPH FPH THL CAV 81.00%
    28 Pricey ATM PPH HBL CBL BLT 77.66%
    29 Moose ATM PPH NZR LIC GXH 77.58%
    30 Toucan22 ATM SCT ALF SUM PEB 77.08%
    31 J3Y ATM HBL SCL CVT ANZ 76.78%
    32 warthog ATM AIR IFT EBO AIA 76.58%
    33 mask ATM SEK IFT MET NZR 74.90%
    34 mfd ATM XRO AIR SKL BLT 74.89%
    35 NZSilver ATM HBL CEN SUM TIL 74.11%
    36 pak ATM NTL EVO SEA BLT 73.08%
    37 Left Field ATM PPH FPH BLT PIL 72.83%
    38 dela47 ATM THL AIR SUM BLT 72.57%
    39 Rossimarnz ATM THL AIR SUM PIL 72.34%
    40 ShandyNZ ATM SML RYM PEB BLT 70.79%
    41 ras ATM AIR HBL SKC PLX 68.55%
    42 Fiskerking PPH ERD FPH CEN TRA 68.50%
    43 Kjula61 SML ERD FPH EBO WDT 66.72%
    44 Antipodean NTL AIR RBD HBL NZR 66.46%
    45 Rabbi ATM SUM EBO OGC ARV 63.92%
    46 bullfrog ERD OIC TTK HBL PLX 63.82%
    47 zs_cecil ATM XRO HBL PEB BLT 62.61%
    48 Baa_Baa ATM PPH ARV PLX OHE 62.31%
    49 Stones ATM ALF SPK ANZ FBU 62.26%
    50 CodeRed ATM NZR SPG OGC ANZ 60.25%
    51 Numbersman PPH THL AIR RYM FRE 59.38%
    52 jimbo SML AIR HBL SEK IFT 58.99%
    53 JBmurc NTL THL PGW NZO OGC 58.78%
    54 S Elder PPH FPH THL SUM CVT 58.60%
    55 Harley ATM THL MCK CBL PIL 57.61%
    56 Deecimal PPH NZK FPH CEN EVO 57.08%
    57 Rust OIC SCT FPH PGW CNU 56.56%
    57 First NZ Capital SML XRO FPH CEN TGH 55.27%
    58 Cool Bear NTL HBL PGW ARG AIA 54.42%
    59 Grunta ATM FPH STU PEB SLI 52.40%
    60 Jantar NWF THL AIR HLG IFT 51.62%
    61 iceman PPH THL HLG SAN TRA 51.29%
    62 drrcd NTL SML IFT EVO PIL 51.10%
    63 Ratkin ATM EBO RAK RBC SEA 51.03%
    64 Pjai FPH THL AIR HBL MFT 50.80%
    65 biker ATM CEN TRA RBC PEB 50.62%
    66 ben28 PPH FPH MFT CEN AIA 50.29%
    67 Ruaboy SML HBL ALF SKL MVT 49.94%
    68 MAGA! NTL TPW MFT FRE STU 49.86%
    68 Hamilton Hindin Greene OIC FPH RYM GNE CNU 48.73%
    69 Acegolfer PPH THL HBL ARV STU 47.36%
    70 horus1 ATM CVT TLT TRA PIL 46.56%
    71 blockhead FPH THL HBL SCL ZEL 46.39%
    72 Risin Vortex PPH RBD CDI IFT ARV 46.30%
    73 Lola SML GTK ALF FMS OHE 43.72%
    74 ace5715 THL AIR HBL HLG SUM 43.32%
    75 Federer FPH THL AIR HBL TGH 43.11%
    76 Bum_Burglar NWF AIR HBL RYM CVT 42.95%
    77 The hound THL AIR SCL HLG SUM 42.85%
    78 Mission ATM HBL GXH MOA PLX 42.85%
    79 PHuljich PPH FPH EBO CVT BGP 42.17%
    80 Eagle ATM CVT TIL SEA OHE 41.93%
    81 lac THL RBD SEK RYM SUM 41.29%
    82 spmcg FPH THL HBL SUM AIA 40.62%
    83 McGinty ATM HLG TRA SLI PIL 40.21%
    84 Muncha SML SCL MFT NZR TRA 40.01%
    85 kappa SCT THL ALF SAN TRA 39.64%
    85 Craigs Investment Partners GTK RBD MFT CEN FSF 38.81%
    86 Lawnmower man THL AIR HBL HLG TRA 38.70%
    87 Tongster PPH HBL SUM MCK WHS 38.06%
    88 Brucey09 PPH ALF MFT NZR AFT 37.85%
    89 Nasi Goreng SML AIR POT FSF GXH 37.75%
    90 Jaa GTK FPH THL TRA GEO 36.84%
    91 JoshuaTree GTK NWF FPH EVO CGL 36.65%
    92 captainigloo FPH HBL SCL SUM AIA 36.04%
    93 KJ THL AIR HBL SUM TRA 35.67%
    94 crabs FPH HBL ALF PGW LIC 35.01%
    95 RMVonStock MMH ALF EUT MFT CEN 34.97%
    96 Duveldog FPH DGL MGL SKL IKE 34.95%
    97 slimshadow SML AIR ZEL STU SCY 34.90%
    98 MCCSA767 PPH ERD ARV EVO BLT 34.73%
    98 Hobson Wealth Management FPH RBD TPW MFT VGL 34.54%
    99 Timid THL HBL PGW SUM TWR 34.08%
    100 taybay0404 SML ALF RYM AIA MOA 33.98%
    101 james108 OIC RBD IFT MHJ EVO 33.61%
    102 jumbo SCT HBL IFT SUM NZR 33.13%
    103 Lewylewylewy THL RBD POT EBO NZR 33.02%
    104 MAG THL POT RYM SUM MCY 32.82%
    105 BAFFLED AIR HBL POT IFT FSF 32.78%
    106 bung5 TTK AIR KMD CNU EVO 32.10%
    107 shasta XRO THL IFT NZX RBC 31.27%
    108 thestg AIR SCL IFT CEN EBO 31.18%
    109 youngatheart NTL PPH CGL BLT PIL 31.15%
    110 Fiasco SML SUM CNU AIA TIL 30.95%
    111 percy THL ALF HLG MCK TRA 30.50%
    112 Tim23 NWF FPH NZO AIA AFT 30.31%
    113 Harrison NZK FPH SKC FSF EVO 30.12%
    114 forest THL ALF SAN SKL SDL 29.40%
    115 newtrader FPH AIR IFT EBO BGP 29.37%
    116 Kelvin AIR RBD HLG SUM TIL 29.11%
    117 Patrick RBD HBL SAN EBO VHP 28.81%
    118 Penny SML POT EBO MVN RBC 28.27%
    119 Whemthat GTK FPH VGL TIL EVO 27.78%
    120 littletramp GTK SCT ABA VGL MPG 27.74%
    121 lee THL HBL CEN CVT TIL 27.28%
    122 exactchange XRO HBL IFT ARV STU 27.12%
    123 clips AIR HBL SUM EBO AIA 26.89%
    124 vici GTK RYM EBO MHJ TIL 26.86%
    125 Saint THL AIR HLG TRA EVO 25.65%
    126 Way Over The Hill SCT HBL CNU AIA WBC 25.38%
    127 Vaygor1 ALF RYM CDI SUM AIA 25.12%
    127 Forsyth Barr FPH THL IFT CBL EVO 24.49%
    128 gmatt NTL THL RBC CAV BLT 24.31%
    129 ari SCT FPH POT RBC SEA 23.91%
    130 Big Blind AIR SCL IFT FRE EVO 23.37%
    131 Crackity NWF NZO NZX NZR NPT 23.02%
    132 Jay AIR HLG SUM EBO TIL 22.81%
    133 S Club5 SCL SKL SUM SPN SKC 22.34%
    134 Hamish FPH IFT SKC AIA MHJ 22.18%
    135 Snoopy RBD SKL CEN SKC SPK 21.95%
    136 Graham HBL DGL VHP ARG TIL 21.34%
    137 Bilbo PPH GTK ARV SLI BLT 21.04%
    138 EJK TTK THL IFT TGH BLT 21.00%
    138 JBWere FPH MFT CEN FSF EVO 20.91%
    139 Taijon SCT FPH NZO RBC FBU 20.80%
    140 h2so4 RBD ALF MCK MET AWF 20.65%
    141 buddha beer AIR ALF RYM IFT PLX 19.35%
    142 garfy THL AIR SCL ARV PIL 19.07%
    142 MSL Capital Markets SML HBL AIA GXH PLX 18.97%
    143 troyvdh RYM CEN SUM PFI MET 18.12%
    144 greater fool POT CDI NZO MCK ANZ 18.07%
    145 kiwichick AIR POT AIA WBC ANZ 17.75%
    146 Stevevai1983 RYM IFT SUM EBO ARV 17.53%
    147 Sun Lee FPH CEN TWR CVT EVO 17.53%
    148 TFA PPH HBL MET MPG OHE 17.35%
    149 duncan22 GTK XRO TIL CBL OHE 17.23%
    150 Noodles THL RBD TRA AWF CBL 16.93%
    151 Mangom FPH TPW NZR AIA FBU 16.88%
    152 Mshierlaw TPW IFT SUM EBO STU 16.78%
    153 Crow GTK SUM MEL ARV MPG 16.57%
    154 Deej5 HBL VHP ARG PFI AIA 16.42%
    155 Teeps SCL RYM SUM AIA CBL 16.17%
    156 Johndes HBL MEL FSF SPK ARV 15.95%
    157 Major von Tempsky GFL HLG MFT SPK FBU 15.72%
    158 minerbarejet THL GMT IPL VCT PEB 15.25%
    159 hcpp88 AIR ZEL CVT AIA ANZ 14.32%
    160 DarkHorse THL HLG TRA SCY EVO 13.89%
    161 klid ALF IFT MCK TRA SCY 13.79%
    162 Farcanal FPH IFT NZR ANZ PEB 13.61%
    163 lissica RYM IFT MFT FRE GXH 13.05%
    164 bull.... HBL SCL FSF NZR CAV 12.35%
    165 pedro.nz XRO MFT SUM AIA BLT 11.94%
    166 ABhatnagar PPH RYM TGH CAV MPG 11.89%
    167 777 GMT PCT ARG PFI KPG 10.99%
    168 Alz99 AIR CEN PCT ARV PEB 10.97%
    169 amalgam THL ALF FLI TRA PIL 10.60%
    170 Rob Optimist FPH IFT CVT CBL PEB 10.28%
    171 silverblizzard888 PPH RBD RBC CAV BLT 10.14%
    172 WLDSTH MFT MCK TGG AIA TME 9.97%
    173 SAM2103 RYM MFT EBO VHP BFW 9.68%
    174 mani99 PGW MCK AWK KPG STU 9.53%
    175 JayRiggs HLG IFT VGL TIL TGH 9.31%
    176 Balloon THL ABA RAK TIL MOA 9.23%
    177 whitewatergeo XRO SKL SPK TME BLT 9.00%
    178 dinkv RBD IFT AWK BGP FBU 8.93%
    179 Xerof AIR HBL IFT PEB OHE 6.93%
    180 but-what-do-i-know SCL HLG MEL ARV BLT 6.81%
    181 Huxley HLG KMD IFT ANZ BLT 6.60%
    182 Toulouse - Luzern SCL MCK AIA SDL CBL 6.41%
    183 clip SCL ALF AIA CBL MPG 5.47%
    184 hogie FPH SKC NZR FBU BFW 5.33%
    185 Grimy AIR PGW CEN TGH BLT 5.15%
    186 Pierre THL AIR TIL PEB BLT 3.76%
    187 beetills HBL CDI ANZ RBC CGL 3.20%
    188 Scottjamesy THL AIR SUM BLT PIL 2.47%
    189 Ewnet13 HBL GNE NZO BFW CGF 2.12%
    190 airedale MEL SPK MHJ TIL TGH 2.11%
    191 angrytoenail XRO MFT SPK PEB BLT 2.09%
    192 reacher PPH AIR SLI OHE PIL 1.95%
    193 riggers SCL PGW TGG AIA VIL 1.20%
    194 BlackPeter HBL MCK TRA STU MPG 0.83%
    195 Paper Tiger OIC FRE TRA BLT PIL 0.49%
    195 Vulcan Capital NZK TRU TRA PEB PIL 0.34%
    196 Placemakers THL FSF NZR MOA PLX -0.71%
    197 Southern_Belle HBL ALF TIL SEA PIL -0.98%
    198 mikeybycrikey XRO AIR RBC PLX OHE -1.29%
    199 Rokko THL IKE CNU PEB BLT -2.42%
    200 Janner SKL WDT ARV TRA CAV -5.05%
    201 SCOTTY GFL FLI NZR CGL SLI -7.31%
    202 golden city THL NZR PEB CGL CAV -7.90%
    203 Gonzo HBL EBO STU CAV PIL -10.63%
    204 watford MEL ARV TRA TGH BLT -12.28%
    205 Jotal SCL BGP TGH EVO BLT -12.41%
    206 QOH PGW SUM SPK BLT PIL -13.90%
    207 Dogs of the NZX AIR AFT EVO PEB PLX -13.91%
    208 RGR367 XRO RAK PEB OHE BLT -15.25%
    209 Sure Thing THL SEA PEB MPG PLX -17.48%
    210 davflaws ALF NZR PEB PLX BLT -19.12%
    211 Balance NZO SEA PEB CGL VIL -30.43%
    212 investor420 AFT EVO PEB GEO OHE -32.17%

    Well done one and all.

    ありがとうございました
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    Thumbs up That was the year that was

    Gains and Losses for each chosen share.

    Rank Stock % Gain
    1 SKO 655.17%
    2 ATM 287.98%
    3 NTL 183.33%
    4 PPH 132.96%
    5 SML 128.57%
    6 ERD 123.75%
    7 OIC 112.92%
    8 GTK 91.31%
    9 TTK 88.37%
    10 NZK 82.68%
    11 NWF 81.07%
    12 XRO 72.32%
    13 SCT 67.57%
    14 FPH 67.08%
    15 THL 66.20%
    16 MMH 54.71%
    17 AIR 50.46%
    18 RBD 45.71%
    19 HBL 45.67%
    20 SEK 44.58%
    21 DGL 43.35%
    22 SCL 43.33%
    23 ALF 41.83%
    24 GFL 37.52%
    25 HLG 34.70%
    26 KMD 34.26%
    27 POT 31.88%
    28 MGL 31.58%
    29 EUT 31.50%
    30 RYM 30.36%
    31 TPW 30.36%
    32 CDI 29.28%
    33 PGW 28.26%
    34 GNE 26.34%
    35 SAN 26.13%
    36 IFT 25.68%
    37 SKL 25.06%
    38 MFT 24.59%
    39 CEN 22.24%
    40 ABA 20.28%
    41 SUM 19.58%
    42 MEL 19.53%
    43 FRE 16.94%
    44 TRU 16.67%
    45 NZO 16.10%
    46 GMT 16.09%
    47 MCY 16.09%
    48 PCT 15.88%
    49 EBO 14.19%
    50 NZX 14.16%
    51 IPL 13.49%
    52 SPN 13.49%
    53 MCK 13.33%
    54 FMS 12.50%
    55 VHP 12.33%
    56 VCT 12.04%
    57 FLI 11.04%
    58 TWR 10.70%
    59 ARG 10.25%
    60 SKC 10.23%
    61 FSF 10.20%
    62 ZEL 9.68%
    63 PFI 9.31%
    64 MET 9.11%
    65 MVT 8.57%
    66 AWK 8.53%
    67 IKE 7.69%
    68 CVT 7.19%
    69 NZR 7.13%
    70 CNU 6.94%
    71 SPK 6.50%
    72 SPG 6.41%
    73 VGL 4.96%
    74 TGG 4.87%
    75 AIA 4.56%
    76 TLT 3.67%
    77 KPG 3.41%
    78 MHJ 3.32%
    79 TME 2.50%
    80 WBC 2.13%
    81 WDT 0.00%
    82 OGC 0.00%
    83 RAK 0.00%
    84 ANZ -0.27%
    85 ARV -2.15%
    86 NPT -3.35%
    87 TRA -3.55%
    88 TIL -4.91%
    89 STU -5.90%
    90 AWF -6.74%
    91 LIC -7.82%
    92 SCY -8.32%
    93 BGP -10.56%
    94 MVN -11.29%
    95 SDL -12.22%
    96 TGH -13.87%
    97 CBL -16.96%
    98 AFT -17.27%
    99 EVO -19.56%
    100 WHS -21.24%
    101 RBC -22.00%
    102 FBU -24.74%
    103 SEA -25.00%
    104 PEB -31.58%
    105 GXH -32.35%
    106 BFW -33.08%
    107 MOA -35.44%
    108 CGL -36.67%
    109 GEO -36.84%
    110 CGF -44.44%
    111 CAV -44.59%
    112 MPG -45.41%
    113 PLX -51.61%
    114 SLI -55.56%
    115 OHE -55.61%
    116 BLT -61.36%
    117 PIL -62.50%
    118 VIL -75.00%
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    Fascinating to see STU, FBU and MPG all make the sick puppies list in the midst of a building boom and a booming sharemarket. Worse, this is not isolated to 2017 by any means. Construction / Building sector returns over the years have been very poor relative to the market. Not sure why so many managed funds continued with their persistent approach to an approximate market weighting to this sector, go figure ?
    Not quite sure what to make of this other than to steer well clear of that sector for the foreseeable future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    Congrats to all 130 participants who beat the NZX50, well done, give yourself a pat on the back and the hound would like to extend sympathy to his fellow Beagle Snoopy who only just missed the cut.
    The NZX50 started the year 6974 (Wed 4th January) and closed at 8398 (Fri Dec 29th). That makes a gain of 20.4%. Note that the NZX50 is an accumulation index that includes dividends so it is a fitting yardstick for the stock picking contest that also includes dividends. My competition score was 21.95%. So that means I have beaten the index by 1.5 percentage points. I am absolutely chuffed at this result. Why? Because my value based strategy should cause me to under perform the index by a couple of percentage points in high growth years, but outperform the index by 5 or 6 percentage points in not so good years. So with such a good year on the market my expectation was for an 18.5% gain, not 22%.

    Very pleasing from my perspective as well because as some competitors who have done well are inclined to forget at competition end, successful investing is all about getting the best result you can for the risk you want to take. At competition end, the risk by definition is zero because the competition is done and dusted. But at the start of the year everyone had a different risk they were willing to take and I wasn't willing to take any big gambles. The competition was a good approximation to my actual portfolio so all gains I made were real. So to get an above average result using my low risk strategy was just brilliant. Thanks very much for PT for rescuing the contest, and was glad to hear that klid was Ok!

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    Okay. So pure speculative stocks won't cut it for a contest. Lesson learned so entered only 3 speculations for the next one

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