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    Default Deutsche Bank AG (USA)

    Is there any specific reason for sudden interest on DB stocks? It has given nearly 50% returns during past three months. What cause it to give such returns to investors or traders despite gloomy predictions by others?

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    Worth Watching: What’s Ahead for Deutsche Bank AG (USA) After Today’s Significant Increase?

    Will it become another winning stock for 2017?
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    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-deutsche-bank

    How Many Turnaround Plans Does It Take to Fix Deutsche Bank?

    52-wk high 17.69
    52-wk low 10.84
    Currently trading around 11.44 EUR.

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    They are in serious trouble. Watch the snowball effect when they finally fail.

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    Deutsche Bank pulling out of the equities market is a bit of a red flag. Do they see the top of the market? Others will be watching and we could see more of the same.

    Either way this bank is broke and doomed, they have just bleed 2.8B Euro in the second qtr. The you know what will start hitting the fan very soon me thinks.
    The only question that remains is how many they will take with them, many of which look pretty unhealthy themselves.

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    On CNBC atm, 18,000 jobs to go, raised $8 billion in the last year, going back to its fundamentals andreturning to german and european corporate business. 7.4 billion euros to overhaul the business. Yeah could this be a tipping point, warning of things to come.
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    I wonder if this means they will sell off their jv with Craigs.
    For clarity, nothing I say is advice....

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    Quote Originally Posted by peat View Post
    I wonder if this means they will sell off their jv with Craigs.
    Could be as they are getting out of all nonbanking functions!

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    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/w...anking-crisis/

    '..A lot of people have been writing in about the liquidity crisis and the banks with exposure to Deutsche Bank. This is clearly the European Banking Crisis we have been warning about...Keep in mind that the Lehman and Bear crisis took place in the REPO market. This is why the crisis is appearing in a market most never hear about or see in interest rates. Those in Europe who have a position in cash, it may be better to have shares or a private sector bond or US Treasury. Given the policy in Europe of no bailouts, leaving cash sitting in your account could expose you to risk in the months ahead. In all honesty, if this explodes in Europe, no-one will be safe and it will be pot-luck who’s cash you will be holding when it hits the fan..'

    Deutsche Bank very shaky. US banks with the most exposed derivatives to DB in order are: Goldman Sachs, Citi, Morgan Stanley, Bank of America - JP Morgan. The least exposure is Wells Fargo (Armstrong's private blog comment).

    JPMorgan subject of this article ;https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/he...ers-repo-shock

    Anyone have any intel on banks located in NZ.. Rabo, HSBC etc?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MSJ View Post
    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/w...anking-crisis/

    '..A lot of people have been writing in about the liquidity crisis and the banks with exposure to Deutsche Bank. This is clearly the European Banking Crisis we have been warning about...Keep in mind that the Lehman and Bear crisis took place in the REPO market. This is why the crisis is appearing in a market most never hear about or see in interest rates. Those in Europe who have a position in cash, it may be better to have shares or a private sector bond or US Treasury. Given the policy in Europe of no bailouts, leaving cash sitting in your account could expose you to risk in the months ahead. In all honesty, if this explodes in Europe, no-one will be safe and it will be pot-luck who’s cash you will be holding when it hits the fan..'

    Deutsche Bank very shaky. US banks with the most exposed derivatives to DB in order are: Goldman Sachs, Citi, Morgan Stanley, Bank of America - JP Morgan. The least exposure is Wells Fargo (Armstrong's private blog comment).

    JPMorgan subject of this article ;https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/he...ers-repo-shock

    Anyone have any intel on banks located in NZ.. Rabo, HSBC etc?

    NZ banks on most part are under the Australian helm. HSBC is separate (China). If you're wondering about the impact of DB going under, it may signal the next global market crash. But with the way EU works, I doubt it and at worse, it would be a slow gradual death. DB's market cap is less than $15B so we're not really talking a lot of $ here at risk. The derivative bets against DB may be magnified, but nothing like the toxic debt of 2008 / sub-prime era where trillions were lost in the value of hard real estate assets.

    Don't forget, EU does things different than the US and is entirely in a different league. Past historical debts have not been formalised across EU states creating a problem for the ECB to do monetary management. I'm afraid the real losers in EU are the working class / poor. The rich have already moved their assets out (most likely to the US and holding USD). The bigger problem in NZ is what the NZ Labour Party is going to do to revive the economy? Ms Arderns 'globalist' view is toxic to the people of NZ by hunting for more taxation and eroding our standard of living... I can blah blah until the cows moo home..

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