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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddles View Post
    Lets have a look at all the facts before opening our mouths aye...

    You guys quite happliy state that 25% of people identify as Republican without mentioning how many identify as Democrat, which sits at around 35%.
    So you are quiet incorrect in saying that Republicans where over represented by 50%.

    But hey don't let a few little facts get in the way of a good beat up.
    I'd suggest you go back to statistics class.

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    Trump's approval ratings are rising again and is it any wonder..

    https://nypost.com/2019/02/09/the-de...trumps-sanity/

    If you are of the mind that President Trump is to blame for everything wrong and wacky in our politics, then last week was a very bad week for you.

    The evidence begins with Trumpís very good State of the Union speech, where he was alternately conciliatory toward Democrats and ruthless in contrasting his policies with theirs. Reckless in their rhetoric and resistance, Dems make themselves vulnerable to charges that they support open borders, socialism and infanticide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    Trump's approval ratings are rising again and is it any wonder..

    https://nypost.com/2019/02/09/the-de...trumps-sanity/

    If you are of the mind that President Trump is to blame for everything wrong and wacky in our politics, then last week was a very bad week for you.

    The evidence begins with Trump’s very good State of the Union speech, where he was alternately conciliatory toward Democrats and ruthless in contrasting his policies with theirs. Reckless in their rhetoric and resistance, Dems make themselves vulnerable to charges that they support open borders, socialism and infanticide.
    Lots of mean and dishonest crooks have and had a great approval rating. They are not a measure whether somebody is a decent human being and good for the country and the world.

    Approval ratings are a reflection on (next to many other components)
    - the quality of the system electing a politician
    - the quality of the system measuring the approval ratings
    - the intelligence (or lack there of) of a politicians supporters

    I hear the dear leader in North Korea has outrageously good approval ratings, and so has Putin. And this is not even considering a troubled past which soon could do be our future if we don't dam the populist cancer. Would you like to live under any of these people?

    I note as well that you are parroting Trumps stupid slogans. Did you thought about what you wrote before you posted it?

    Lets pick only one of your buzzwords - You call abortion infanticide. Now - this is a difficult discussion. Personally I do not like the idea of abortion either ... but I think it is worthwhile to reflect for a moment that there are on the other side of the argument as well rights which might be worthwhile considering. What if its the right of the mother to live vs the right of the child to live. Not so easy anymore, isn't it?

    Funny that the people who fight with all mud they can throw against abortion are quite happy that every year more than 30,000 innocent Americans are killed using gun violence. Funny that these people claim ethical high ground when it comes to the killing of a foetus but they are quite happy that the US justice system is killing grown people, some of them guilty of a crime and some (roughly 10%) of them innocent?

    How is it ok that refugees are send back "home" only to be killed by crooks even worse than Trump and his lackeys and how is it ok that US authorities are directly responsible for the deaths of refugee children through Trumps policy of maximum harrassment?

    Your ethical standards seem to have quite big blinkers ...

    But apart from that - Trumps approval rating as of today is 40.2 %. His disapproval rating is 55.1 %;
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/

    Maybe a good rating for the crook, liar and idiot running the white house ... but nothing any decent politician would be proud to crow about. But hey - I suppose pride has nothing to do with it?
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    Rep. Al Green (D-Texas) announced this week that he will call for a third vote on the impeachment of Donald Trump. Why? Because Trump is a "racist".

    But get this, "Pelosi has insisted that any impeachment effort be put on hold until evidence of an impeachable offence is found."
    So we are seeing a 3rd vote on impeachment, when there is no evidence of an impeachable offence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddles View Post
    Rep. Al Green (D-Texas) announced this week that he will call for a third vote on the impeachment of Donald Trump. Why? Because Trump is a "racist".

    But get this, "Pelosi has insisted that any impeachment effort be put on hold until evidence of an impeachable offence is found."
    So we are seeing a 3rd vote on impeachment, when there is no evidence of an impeachable offence.
    I never knew that there were 2 others.
    I do love the 'wait until there is evidence' bit - God help America.

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    Agree with Nancy ... any impeachment proceedings against the crook would only help him by rallying the crowds who don't use their brain to make political decisions, while unimpeached he can continue to damage the Republican Party. It will take generations for the GoP to recover from Trumps legacy - I guess really - who would want to vote for a party which so easily gave up all ethical standards and any decency to submit to a liar and a crook without conscience?

    As well - impeaching Trump would bring Pence - are we sure he is better?

    So, why would the Democrates want to stop this process?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Agree with Nancy ... any impeachment proceedings against the crook would only help him by rallying the crowds who don't use their brain to make political decisions, while unimpeached he can continue to damage the Republican Party. It will take generations for the GoP to recover from Trumps legacy - I guess really - who would want to vote for a party which so easily gave up all ethical standards and any decency to submit to a liar and a crook without conscience?

    As well - impeaching Trump would bring Pence - are we sure he is better?

    So, why would the Democrates want to stop this process?
    BP it's a bit rich you calling him a crook with your past, but then again I guess it takes one to know one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post

    Lets pick only one of your buzzwords - You call abortion infanticide. Now - this is a difficult discussion. Personally I do not like the idea of abortion either ... but I think it is worthwhile to reflect for a moment that there are on the other side of the argument as well rights which might be worthwhile considering. What if its the right of the mother to live vs the right of the child to live. Not so easy anymore, isn't it?
    Well its because the governor of Blackface infamy was supporting a bill (Democratic) that allowed post birth abortions. I am not comfortable with that at all.....

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ion-BIRTH.html

    have a listen to the radio interview with him.

    I do not call abortion infanticide. I do call post birth abortion infanticide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    Well its because the governor of Blackface infamy was supporting a bill (Democratic) that allowed post birth abortions. I am not comfortable with that at all.....

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ion-BIRTH.html

    have a listen to the radio interview with him.

    I do not call abortion infanticide. I do call post birth abortion infanticide.
    "Post birth abortion" is murder ... and it is certainly not a mainstream liberal proposal to decriminalise murder.

    Ah yes - and Virginia's governor did never propose this. You are just a vicitim of Trumps lies and the parrots spreading them.

    Here’s what the fuss is about:

    The Virginia bill ― which is not likely to pass the state’s Republican-controlled House and has been tabled ― would loosen abortion restrictions there.

    Currently, late-term abortions are legal in Virginia only under strict circumstances. The measure introduced by state Rep. Kathy Tran, a Democrat, would remove language requiring that a pregnancy’s risk to the mother be “substantial and irremediable.” The proposal would also change the number of doctors required to sign off on a late-term abortion, from three to one, provided that it is performed in a licensed hospital and that not doing so would “impair the mental or physical health” of the mother or result in her death.

    The law would apply up to ― but not including ― birth.
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b043e25b1a5cb3

    On the other hand - Trump and his gun lobby are responsible for the killing of innocent people every day ...
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    A powerful recent video of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez calling for campaign finance law reforms in the United States is now the most-viewed video featuring a politician in Twitter's history. Ms Ocasio-Cortez asked whether the President was subject to stricter laws than those for Congress.
    Walter Shaub, the director of the Campaign Legal Center and a former head of the US Office of Government Ethics, confirmed that the opposite is true. "There's almost no laws at all that apply to the President," he said.
    "So I'm being held ó and every person in this body is being held to a higher ethical standard than the President of the United States?"
    "That's right."
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new...ectid=12203250

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddles View Post
    Your sources are biased and unreliable.

    Did he not re-open the government in order to broker a deal? The dems said they would negotiate once the government was re-opened, they haven't.

    Your jealously of Trump is obvious and I find it quiet sad that he owns so much of your head space.
    Seems maybe the Dems were brokering a deal but you didn't know - or assumed they weren't - or it didn't suit the narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddles View Post
    Your sources are biased and unreliable.

    Did he not re-open the government in order to broker a deal? The dems said they would negotiate once the government was re-opened, they haven't.

    Your jealously of Trump is obvious and I find it quiet sad that he owns so much of your head space.
    I can easily understand why people dislike and distrust Trump, but I find it impossible to believe anyone could be jealous of him.

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    So no collusion with Russia according to Senate report. Well who saw that one coming.

    https://nypost.com/2019/02/12/senate...russia-report/

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...mpaign-n970536

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Agree with Nancy ... any impeachment proceedings against the crook would only help him by rallying the crowds who don't use their brain to make political decisions, while unimpeached he can continue to damage the Republican Party. It will take generations for the GoP to recover from Trumps legacy - I guess really - who would want to vote for a party which so easily gave up all ethical standards and any decency to submit to a liar and a crook without conscience?

    As well - impeaching Trump would bring Pence - are we sure he is better?

    So, why would the Democrates want to stop this process?
    "rallying the crowds who don't use their brain to make political decisions"

    There it is, you're such a genius aren't you BP? So much smarter than everyone else...

    Luckily, for the rest of the world, there was enough people using their brain to not allow crooked Hillary to get anywhere near the white house again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddles View Post

    There it is, you're such a genius aren't you BP? So much smarter than everyone else...
    I think a lot on the left in their minds do think they are smarter than anyone that could vote for Trump. Such arrogance. the MSM sort of confirmed it during the 2016 election when they stayed in their west and east coast bubble and did not think anyone else's opinion mattered much at all. Well how wrong were they. This is the sort of arrogance that is going to get Trump elected again and I could not be happier about it.

    Taleb sums it up nicely with his IYI term... (intelligent yet idiot)

    The IYI pathologizes others for doing things he doesn’t understand without ever realizing it is his understanding that may be limited. He thinks people should act according to their best interests and he knows their interests, particularly if they are “red necks” or English non-crisp-vowel class who voted for Brexit. When plebeians do something that makes sense to them, but not to him, the IYI uses the term “uneducated”. What we generally call participation in the political process, he calls by two distinct designations: “democracy” when it fits the IYI, and “populism” when the plebeians dare voting in a way that contradicts his preferences. While rich people believe in one tax dollar one vote, more humanistic ones in one man one vote, Monsanto in one lobbyist one vote, the IYI believes in one Ivy League degree one-vote, with some equivalence for foreign elite schools and PhDs as these are needed in the club.

    More socially, the IYI subscribes to The New Yorker. He never curses on twitter. He speaks of “equality of races” and “economic equality” but never went out drinking with a minority cab driver (again, no real skin in the game as the concept is foreign to the IYI). Those in the U.K. have been taken for a ride by Tony Blair. The modern IYI has attended more than one TEDx talks in person or watched more than two TED talks on Youtube. Not only did he vote for Hillary Monsanto-Malmaison because she seems electable and some such circular reasoning, but holds that anyone who doesn’t do so is mentally ill.

    https://medium.com/incerto/the-intel...t-13211e2d0577
    Last edited by blackcap; 14-02-2019 at 11:46 AM. Reason: added last bit as is amusing.

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