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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    True - always wondered how birds can fly for many thousand of km's without rest when they have just this incredibly inefficient biofuel on board :

    To determine the range there are clearly other parameters to consider than just the energy density of the fuel storage container ...
    I think you've presented a really good example. The biological processes involved are very efficient, and it shows that a relatively small storage capacity can be used for a very long journey due to the "other parameters" involved.

    Quote Originally Posted by peat View Post
    My Li-Ion battery electric mower is getting a bit gutless after only 3 years.
    Cant see this current (lol) technolgy giving the longevity neccesary to make the investment wortwhile.
    Its not particularly relevant i guess but this first experience with replacing an ICE with electric battery isnt impressing me
    i couldve put this in the electric car thread
    The pure-electric buses placed in Wellington around 2018 have around 60-70% battery capacity left after nearly 4 years of service. From this you can gather electric planes will require a huge change to the maintenance schedules , supply chain, and technologies etc. It's certainly not as easy as replacing your lawnmower battery, assuming they haven't discontinued it so you now have to purchase a brand new mower! These issues will take some time to address.
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    Anyone remember the early issues AIR had with its lithium ion Dreamliner battery system ? Fire risk if you make those batteries 100 times bigger ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    True - always wondered how birds can fly for many thousand of km's without rest when they have just this incredibly inefficient biofuel on board :

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    To determine the range there are clearly other parameters to consider than just the energy density of the fuel storage container ...
    Prevailing wind methinks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dassets View Post
    Prevailing wind methinks
    Yes and not to forget quite a bit of "refueling" along the way. https://www.allaboutbirds.org/news/h...ing-migration/
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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/ind...-tasman-travel

    Air NZ reveals the millions it loses due to lockdown and suspended Tasman travel


    Alert level 3 or 4 travel restrictions across New Zealand cost Air New Zealand between $45 million and $55m a month, the airline says.

    In an update to the New Zealand stock exchange on Friday morning the national carrier said the monthly impact of an Auckland-only level 3 or 4 travel restriction, with the rest of New Zealand operating at level 1 or 2 is about $25m to $35m.

    The figures include the benefits of the any wage subsidy the airline received, it said.

    Air New Zealand received about $17m in wage subsidies for the Delta outbreak.



    The monthly impact of suspension of trans-Tasman travel is about $20m to $25m, it said.



    The company recently requested additional drawdowns on a government loan facility. Drawdowns, including the latest request, total $435m, with $1.065 billion remaining in the facility.

    The airline is operating about 50 cargo flights per week and there is strong demand for air travel across regions in New Zealand that are under level 2 restrictions.

    What's holding up the SP again ?


    Does AIR have a Special ROBERTSON exemption to allow it to trade while tetering (sorry plummeting) towards Insolvency ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nztx View Post
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/ind...-tasman-travel

    Air NZ reveals the millions it loses due to lockdown and suspended Tasman travel











    What's holding up the SP again ?


    Does AIR have a Special ROBERTSON exemption to allow it to trade while tetering (sorry plummeting) towards Insolvency ?
    Makes no sense SP is holding over 1.5!? When NZ is still yet to get hit with Delta or the next variant, which will undoubtedly happen once boarders reopen, it's inevitable. The effects are yet to be experienced here. How on earth is the SP not steadily declining? Let alone the debt AIR NZ is racking up in the mean time. To become profitable, pay off debt, capital raise looming, I am surprised investors aren't selling off heavily already??

    Thoughts?

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    yes, it'll be one of the greatest mystery of the century. Considering that AIR doesn't have a large property portfolio like AIA to prop up its SP.

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    What if the SHAZ just keep buying ... and the govt says no cap raise... just more debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waltzingironmansinlgescul View Post
    What if the SHAZ just keep buying ... and the govt says no cap raise... just more debt.

    Them Birds will be looking more Insolvent in that case
    (Not the ones parked up in Dessert with sand up to the top of the wheels
    now only hosting Snakes + Crawlies Wildlife get-togethers)
    The Beehive Socialists will have even more of a headache trying to fathom
    what the H*ll is going on.. and if a different bolder shade of Red is needed..
    and the Cleaners around the Exec Office will be even more confused
    when they were lead to believe Free Shares = a chance at Steering Wheel
    rather than staying on their own broomsticks doing low circuits of the office..

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    "bolder shade of Red is needed"

    is there a new rural party on the horizon then...








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