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    From the OCA thread:
    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    Not really a "craze" though is it. I think knowing what operating profit would have been without specific Covid 19 costs is useful information as hopefully that gives investors a better handle to assess fair value based on normalised profit. (One would hope Covid 19 costs won't be with us indefinitely).
    So we are all looking forward to AIR using this measure then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12331941

    That is why the Iceland approach posted over-page and reproduced here is the correct one. https://grapevine.is/news/2020/05/11...om-bankruptcy/
    Iceland’s overall approach (not just for airlines) seems more pragmatic than our molly coddling approach

    While we seem to keep subsidising and giving loans to businesses that inevitably will go broke iceland appears to ‘
    “We may need to make some sacrifices,” Bjarni warns. “Losing companies that are inefficient and not working will reduce state intervention.” It is his belief that private enterprise will “stimulate” the economy and “create new jobs” if left to its own devices.

    Iceland used to these economic crashes ....one of most affected countries post GFC
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Singapore airlines announced their first ever loss, a lot of it due to future fuel hedging losses.

    Their year ended 31-Mar and that final quarter was a real downer for them.

    You can grab the accounts and commentary via https://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/s...ncial-results/ if you wish.
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    Good stuff. AirNZ turns dreamliner into inter island cargo carrier.
    https://amp.rnz.co.nz/article/dd6dd6...mpression=true

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow Leopard View Post
    From the OCA thread:


    So we are all looking forward to AIR using this measure then?
    LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Iceland’s overall approach (not just for airlines) seems more pragmatic than our molly coddling approach

    While we seem to keep subsidising and giving loans to businesses that inevitably will go broke iceland appears to ‘
    “We may need to make some sacrifices,” Bjarni warns. “Losing companies that are inefficient and not working will reduce state intervention.” It is his belief that private enterprise will “stimulate” the economy and “create new jobs” if left to its own devices.

    Iceland used to these economic crashes ....one of most affected countries post GFC
    Molly coddling to unions lead by Savage will end badly. Iceland definitely have the right idea. Get efficient and get real or get gone. AIR (contrary to popular belief) should not be run as a social welfare organisation for the elite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    LOL



    Molly coddling to unions lead by Savage will end badly. Iceland definitely have the right idea. Get efficient and get real or get gone. AIR (contrary to popular belief) should not be run as a social welfare organisation for the elite.
    Heard this morning, Australian will discuss the trans Tasman bubble no earlier than July. News to me, may have already been put out there....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raz View Post
    Heard this morning, Australian will discuss the trans Tasman bubble no earlier than July. News to me, may have already been put out there....
    Well, the statement from Scott Morrison a few days ago was that he "could see the trans-Tasman travel bubble in operation as early as July". There's no reasons why discussions can't be held earlier, so I'm not sure whether this has indeed changed or not.

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    https://www.airpointsstore.co.nz/Pro...tre10/eVoucher

    Mitre 10 vouchers are back at the airpoints store.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAK View Post
    Good stuff. AirNZ turns dreamliner into inter island cargo carrier.
    https://amp.rnz.co.nz/article/dd6dd6...mpression=true
    Given the amount of courier freight, and the delays......might not be a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    Well, the statement from Scott Morrison a few days ago was that he "could see the trans-Tasman travel bubble in operation as early as July". There's no reasons why discussions can't be held earlier, so I'm not sure whether this has indeed changed or not.
    Not sure, this was direct from a Minister.

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