sharetrader

Thread: AIR - Air NZ.

  1. #18531
    Advanced Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Posts
    1,621

    Default

    Little profit in Trans Tasman routes anyway even when they do open up, and esp without Asian market feeding into them.
    Just re reading an early June 2020 update to the market from AIR, saying based on hope of Trans Tasman & Pacific routes being open by September (2020) for business & leisure travellers a return to profit by August 2022.
    Well that didn't happen & a bit over optimistic to say the least.

  2. #18532
    Veteran novice
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    , , .
    Posts
    7,289

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    Little profit in Trans Tasman routes anyway even when they do open up, and esp without Asian market feeding into them.
    Just re reading an early June 2020 update to the market from AIR, saying based on hope of Trans Tasman & Pacific routes being open by September (2020) for business & leisure travellers a return to profit by August 2022.
    Well that didn't happen & a bit over optimistic to say the least.
    Does anyone have a feel for AIR's profitability split - domestic/trans Tasman/international pre Covid?
    There's a lot of domestic traffic back in the skies and AIR's short term prospects may not be as dire as some are predicting.

    Disc: Not holding but mildly interested.
    Last edited by macduffy; 25-03-2021 at 02:02 PM.

  3. #18533
    Member mikelee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2021
    Location
    Side 2
    Posts
    241

    Default

    It was 1/3 for each sector pre-Covid I believe.

  4. #18534
    Speedy Az winner69's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    , , .
    Posts
    37,890

    Default

    Here comes 2 bucks any day soon

    Almost back to the good old days

  5. #18535
    Advanced Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Posts
    1,621

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Here comes 2 bucks any day soon

    Almost back to the good old days

    Should have listened more to those new investors on sharesies, knew what they were talking about after all.

  6. #18536
    Reincarnated Panthera Snow Leopard's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Private Universe
    Posts
    5,862

    Default

    I am not convinced that it is anything but seriously overpriced.
    om mani peme hum

  7. #18537
    Member mikelee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2021
    Location
    Side 2
    Posts
    241

    Default

    fingers crossed that bubble don't burst too easily

  8. #18538
    Speedy Az winner69's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    , , .
    Posts
    37,890

    Default

    Wonder how beagles short is coming along.
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

  9. #18539
    Member McPussPuss's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2020
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    54

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Wonder how beagles short is coming along.
    Careful, that sounds libelous.

    A winter trans Tasman 'boom' could be great timing for a cap raise.

  10. #18540
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    470

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Snow Leopard View Post
    I am not convinced that it is anything but seriously overpriced.
    as they say opinions are like noses (everybody has got one) but I agree the valuation is ridiculous.

    Right now the balance sheet is insolvent and they only exist at the behest of the NZ Government (no fault of Air NZ of course).
    Valuing the equity at NZ$2.1b is bold as they will have to raise over NZ$1b, maybe NZ$1.5b and I wonder what price they will do that raising at? The amount of value destroyed through cash burn and mothballed planes is enormous but the equity is supposedly worth 2/3rds of the pre-virus levels when they were raking in cash, paying good dividends and had a decent balance sheet. I have never seen a valuation make less sense than this one but GLTAH. As a previous long term holder I watch with interest and we'll see what happens...

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •