sharetrader

Thread: AIR - Air NZ.

  1. #18601
    Senior Member Marilyn Munroe's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Hollywood
    Posts
    922

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by kyanar View Post
    I'm on Earth. If you think Hosking's diatribe is correct, I'd be questioning which you're on. There's a lot of reasons to raise questions about the actions of the government in relation to the various PSOEs (partially state owned enterprises) but Hosking's assertion that it's somehow to do with their "socialist agenda" is just typical right wing fearmongering.
    You may be right, Hosking misunderstood Grant Robertson motives. An alternative criticism of the Minister of Finance if his wish is to become the wing commander of Air New Zealand is lack of street smarts.

    He should have let it go bust and then rescued it for cents on the dollar and saved the taxpayer a bundle.

    Boop boop de do
    Marilyn
    Diamonds are a girls best friend.

  2. #18602
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    123

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Munroe View Post
    You may be right, Hosking misunderstood Grant Robertson motives. An alternative criticism of the Minister of Finance if his wish is to become the wing commander of Air New Zealand is lack of street smarts.

    He should have let it go bust and then rescued it for cents on the dollar and saved the taxpayer a bundle.

    Boop boop de do
    Marilyn
    Can agree with that. While I'm not entirely convinced that Air NZ was so distressed that it would go under, if the goal was to try and push it under so the government could pick up the remaining shares they don't own (which I'd question the point of, since they already own a controlling stake and right now there's no real benefit to owning more) then this method was pretty terrible.

    The Finance Minister did a pretty fantastic job, getting them to agree to take financing under the terms they did (terms that I'd argue would appall regulators if a private company did it) and I'd suggest if he really wanted to ensure value for money for the taxpayer, instead of converting repayments to shares the government should sit on the loan letting it accrue ludicrous interest, which Air NZ would have no choice really but to suspend dividends to the rest of us poor suckers to repay.

  3. #18603
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    886

    Default

    Think everyone is reading too much into Grant's letter. I read it as related to the servicing of Saudi navy engines with a stern don't do it again.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300...abian-military

  4. #18604
    Legend
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Everywhere
    Posts
    7,000

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaa View Post
    Think everyone is reading too much into Grant's letter. I read it as related to the servicing of Saudi navy engines with a stern don't do it again.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/300...abian-military

    Is servicing MP's Car Engines as lucrative to replace said activities ?

  5. #18605
    ShareTrader Legend bull....'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    auckland, , New Zealand.
    Posts
    11,074

    Default

    according to qantas more aussies coming to nz than kiwis going to aus in there bookings and its all to do with the skiing period. tens of thousands booking they say
    one step ahead of the herd

  6. #18606
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    LA/ChCh/AKL
    Posts
    1,231

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by bull.... View Post
    according to qantas more aussies coming to nz than kiwis going to aus in there bookings and its all to do with the skiing period. tens of thousands booking they say
    very much so, involved in a couple of businesses in Queenstown, expecting 7000 visitors on Monday from forward booking data...

  7. #18607
    Speedy Az winner69's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    , , .
    Posts
    37,889

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Raz View Post
    very much so, involved in a couple of businesses in Queenstown, expecting 7000 visitors on Monday from forward booking data...
    So definitely not a place for kiwis to visit these days - but then apparently kiwis hate the place anyway
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

  8. #18608
    Guru
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    Bolivia.
    Posts
    4,956

    Default

    Trans-Tasman bubble: Bookings drying up 'really quickly' as COVID-19 concerns linger (msn.com)

    So a bit of a rush and bookings slowed down for the time being.

    As for Queenstown, its a place you go for a weekend or a few days, spend a sh1t ton of money, have a great time and then get out again.

  9. #18609
    Speedy Az winner69's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    , , .
    Posts
    37,889

    Default

    AIR and AIA seem to spending heaps on champagne, bands etc etc 'celebrating' this bubble

    Don't waste shareholders money - just fly punters back and forth
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

  10. #18610
    Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2017
    Posts
    466

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    AIR and AIA seem to spending heaps on champagne, bands etc etc 'celebrating' this bubble

    Don't waste shareholders money - just fly punters back and forth
    Yes. AIR management are touting a move from "survive" to "revive". Personally I think thats a bit premature. However, I suppose they are trying to spin it that way in order to try and prevent so much IP flying out the door in search market rates of pay. It must be hard for people to stay when they have taken a 30% haircut only to have even higher paid consultants come in to backfill the shortfall

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •