AIR - Air NZ.

**nztx** · 30-09-2021, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by biker

What was the actual sentence?

12 mths intensive supervised time (probably on Insto) & 500 bucks for emotional
harm to the Air NZ crew guy

wonder how he managed to suffer emotional harm ? Did he get kicked or bitten ?

Poor guy being subjected to that .. next time open the cargo shute to get rid of problem fast

The AIR Top Brass should award him at least 10,000 shares for the H&S issues arising at such a
great height in dealing with totally sober 'self entitled' jumped up custies

**Swala** · 04-10-2021, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by mikelee

they all say the same thing..."it's too good an opportunity to pass up bla bla bla"
and in reality there is just little loyalty in most business, more $ and a more senior title is all it takes to persuade people to move on

the brain drain hasn't stopped since the pandemic started (or since the new CEO joined) but makes little difference indeed, until the business is up and running full steam ahead at least.

Think 22 years service to a Company demonstrates a certain amount of loyalty....

**Sideshow Bob** · 04-10-2021, 02:49 PM

Meanwhile, up 2.5% today.....

Presumably as people see international flights closer with Australia saying they are open for the double-jabbed, and then AIR saying over the weekend also have to be double-jabbed to fly internationally with them.

**iceman** · 05-10-2021, 11:58 AM

This shows how quickly tourism will pick up when countries open borders & people are fully vaccinated. Unlike our never ending border closures https://www.iata.org/en/iata-reposit...e-in-bookings/

**winner69** · 05-10-2021, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by iceman

This shows how quickly tourism will pick up when countries open borders & people are fully vaccinated. Unlike our never ending border closures https://www.iata.org/en/iata-reposit...e-in-bookings/

Iceman. that's one cool chart eh

Unfortunately it's hard to see NZ'ers and AIR enjoying that freedom for a while ......lost opportunities

**Sideshow Bob** · 05-10-2021, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by iceman

This shows how quickly tourism will pick up when countries open borders & people are fully vaccinated. Unlike our never ending border closures https://www.iata.org/en/iata-reposit...e-in-bookings/

Great chart! Presume would be both domestic and international.

Currently over 20% of Kiwis are unvaccinated, so realistically don't have many places to go, if any.

Will be interesting to see the appetite for travel - short hop to Australia with reciprocal health agreements. How many would think twice before a long-haul flight to another country?? Travel insurance??

**iceman** · 05-10-2021, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by winner69

Iceman. that's one cool chart eh

Unfortunately it's hard to see NZ'ers and AIR enjoying that freedom for a while ......lost opportunities

Since the Biden Admin announced last week ( or 2) fully vaccinated Europeans will be allowed in from November, ticket sales have hit 70% of 2019 levels. Same from US to Europe. Agree about NZ missing out

**Maxtrade** · 05-10-2021, 03:12 PM

Has there been some news which would explain why AIA has been rallying strongly today?

**Maxtrade** · 06-10-2021, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Maxtrade

Has there been some news which would explain why AIA has been rallying strongly today?

Originally Posted by macduffy

Probably just slowly growing confidence that air travel is going to resume - some day!

When boarders open, subsequently NZ will first be exposed to seeing the true effects of Covid. We are 6-12 months behind the rest of the world in this aspect. On one hand we might expect tourism to flow. On the other we will start seeing 1000'2 more cases and it won't take long at all before our limited ICU beds, doctors and nursing staff, ventilators etc are at max capacity. In turn we will start to see what it really means to have Covid. Up until now we have been shielded. Even if we do reach 90% vaccination rates we will still likely see these events play out seeing we are not as well equiped in NZ compared to the medical capacity in the states for example.

So although boarders might be open once we start seeing the health system get overwhelmed it may have a negative affect on tourism due to the situation we will be in. Which also may result in lockdowns being re-established if our hospitals aren't coping.

Would anyone agree it might be premature to see AIR and AIA share prices heading north prematurely here. It is good to be positive and optimistic, but at the same time we have a lot of reality to deal with ahead. NZ is small, limited health system capacity, this is what is different and may still affect our tourism market for longer than some may realise.

Thoughts on this?