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    AIR is not stable enough to do a cash issue. That is why it keeps getting put off. Even Min of Fin said that in a letter to AIR. To raise $1.5 bil and still be loss making for 2 or 3 years is a problem for an operating business. Remember AIR had already consumed the cash paid for tickets then issued the biggest IOU in NZ history. To me it is up there with a scam.

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    Their op stats for December. Not much to get excited by......

    364129.pdf (nzx-prod-s7fsd7f98s.s3-website-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com)

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    Big fall in passenger numbers in December v prior year ... even domestic was down 23%

    http://nzx-prod-s7fsd7f98s.s3-websit...905/364129.pdf
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    Its the BIG STAY AT HOME in the HUT coming. Now if your in the country side or rural towns its dont go near those big population centres.

    Apparently hospitality already noticing a big slow down...

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...5EAZARA2GIQDA/

    Much excitement at AIR. Great selling point for their pending gargantuan capital raise. What an "amazing" opportunity that will be
    Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...5EAZARA2GIQDA/

    Much excitement at AIR. Great selling point for their pending gargantuan capital raise. What an "amazing" opportunity that will be
    Is the IAFC still going?

    Besides, got to fly in all those RAT tests just ordered...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...5EAZARA2GIQDA/

    Much excitement at AIR. Great selling point for their pending gargantuan capital raise. What an "amazing" opportunity that will be

    Seeing as Robertson's "strip the Reserve Bank by Borrowing from Yourself" didn't quite make it to Germany's
    1920's inflationary currency printing levels, maybe AIR could try the same with billions of ultimately
    worthless new shares - likely to be hovered up consolidated and cancelled in the future, once AIR thinks
    everyone has gotten past the point of remembering that they paid good money for the things

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    Although it seems on the face of it that shareholders could be crushed by AIR's pending requirement for tons of new capital, it begs the question why the top 9 shareholders (not including Government) continue to hold such large positions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baa_Baa View Post
    Although it seems on the face of it that shareholders could be crushed by AIR's pending requirement for tons of new capital, it begs the question why the top 9 shareholders (not including Government) continue to hold such large positions?

    Who would dare crash the SP of AIR for all though - and who would buy large ?

    The captive Quazi Govt rabbits in the hat - like ACC, etc certainly wouldn't want to be seen rocking boat

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    Quote Originally Posted by nztx View Post
    Seeing as Robertson's "strip the Reserve Bank by Borrowing from Yourself" didn't quite make it to Germany's
    1920's inflationary currency printing levels, maybe AIR could try the same with billions of ultimately
    worthless new shares - likely to be hovered up consolidated and cancelled in the future, once AIR thinks
    everyone has gotten past the point of remembering that they paid good money for the things ;
    )
    History "never" repeats eh
    Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.
    Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine

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