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13-07-2016, 09:59 AM
#7441
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13-07-2016, 10:22 AM
#7442
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
not so sure ... does this really look like an emerging uptrend to you?
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I guess - yes, we (just) managed to get over the MA30 (red line), but volume appears to peter out already and the relative strength (lower blue line) indicates (if anything) more an "overbought" than an "oversold" situation.
Sure - anything can happen (particularly with the markets feeling bullish), but personally I would not bet the farm on AIR moving from here into the stratosphere.
Discl: No (material) interest in AIR - and as usual - DYOR;
It's just getting started ......
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13-07-2016, 10:25 AM
#7443
Good question (Impact of Brexit on AIR). I guess in a year or so we will know more ... personally I would however assume that Brits react to their significantly dropped wealth (due to the fall of the GBP) by reducing first their discretionary expenses. Holidays (and travel) are typically a large part of that - i.e. they might be likely to travel less and to travel cheaper. This will no doubt have an impact on remote destinations like NZ, which enjoys so far a rather high percentage of UK visitors.
Don't know, what percentage of the AIR customers are British - but I think that at least the Heathrow route wouldn't be able to survive without their custom. Sure - Chinese people and US Americans might fly instead a bit more often, but increased competition on these routes are IMHO unlikely to help AIR to sustain good margins.
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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13-07-2016, 10:38 AM
#7444
and in return NZers traveling to the EU via UK is looking more attractive and a lot cheaper.
I'm not saying its without consequence but don't think it is going to impact as much, worse case scenario AIR reduces the number of flights in line with demand but keeps them full and focus resource on markets with more going on.
With a fleet age coming down and economical fleet at that when oil prices climb AIR is best positioned to squeeze the competition.
In a year anything can happen but short term outlook doesn't warrant such a low share price but that's just my opinion.
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13-07-2016, 03:08 PM
#7445
Originally Posted by workingdad
and in return NZers traveling to the EU via UK is looking more attractive and a lot cheaper.
I'm not saying its without consequence but don't think it is going to impact as much, worse case scenario AIR reduces the number of flights in line with demand but keeps them full and focus resource on markets with more going on.
With a fleet age coming down and economical fleet at that when oil prices climb AIR is best positioned to squeeze the competition.
In a year anything can happen but short term outlook doesn't warrant such a low share price but that's just my opinion.
Good post. Agree 100%. Exchange rate cuts both ways, now very attractive for U.K. trips for Kiwi's.
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13-07-2016, 05:57 PM
#7446
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13-07-2016, 07:23 PM
#7447
If one was looking for some correlation of AIR to oil price (or not), what Oil index price would you use? TIA
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13-07-2016, 07:39 PM
#7448
Originally Posted by Baa_Baa
If one was looking for some correlation of AIR to oil price (or not), what Oil index price would you use? TIA
Would WTI be the one?
Be interesting to see the result and although I have looked on occasion but never linked them.....
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13-07-2016, 07:53 PM
#7449
Why use WTI when you can use the actual product?
iata.org has plenty of high level info on global/regional jet fuel prices
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13-07-2016, 07:53 PM
#7450
Had to have a look Baa Baa.
5 year chart looks to be a correlation but the last year AIR has been doing its own thing with the drop in april/may.
Thought worth expanding to the XAL as well which seems to correlate more.
5 year
wti air.jpg
1 year
wti air2.jpg
xal wti.jpg
Last edited by workingdad; 13-07-2016 at 07:56 PM.
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