Premium prices? They were selling flights dirt cheap to us aussie residents around then. $5.5k return in Business, or about $800 return in Economy to the states, and not a lot more to London. Race to the bottom against Qantas, American and United.
As a regular flyer I always book from overseas for AIR, way cheaper...
As a regular flyer I always book from overseas for AIR, way cheaper...
Can you please explain how that works Raz? Do you use another website? Or do you mean you fly from LA to Auckland returning to LA with Air. Rather than Auck to La back to Auck? (I know about 20 years ago tickets were cheaper on air.co.nz rather than air.com but that has been standardised for a long time now)
Can you please explain how that works Raz? Do you use another website? Or do you mean you fly from LA to Auckland returning to LA with Air. Rather than Auck to La back to Auck? (I know about 20 years ago tickets were cheaper on air.co.nz rather than air.com but that has been standardised for a long time now)
Both I'm always going back and forth so i can start a return from either and also consider one way flights at times...American airlines, AIR and United are currently in play if you do not want to go via Australia..you can also get cheaper on code share at times...say fly American Airlines with a Qantas booking takes you to Auckland via AIR and AA from Auckland to LAX say on biz class...is the currently a steal...not a bad product, the food superior to AIR...
Can you please explain how that works Raz? Do you use another website? Or do you mean you fly from LA to Auckland returning to LA with Air. Rather than Auck to La back to Auck? (I know about 20 years ago tickets were cheaper on air.co.nz rather than air.com but that has been standardised for a long time now)
I have found, on occassion, that it is cheaper to book via the Aussie site (for TransTasman) for Aus to NZ than the NZ site.
You can't put your airpoints number in as it will send you back to NZ but can add the booking ref to your airpoints after.
Bumped into an old friend yesterday, a jet engine engineer at AIR so naturally I asked him how things are going with RR. We're "managing" it he said. Still got two planes parked up. It was just a very brief discussion...he was on his way with his daughter to get her orthodontic braces adjusted and was running late.
I got the sense that they are making some progress on this (used to be 4-5 planes parked up a couple on months ago) and managing their way through it okay. Thought I would share for what its worth which probably isn't much.
Maybe Benny could update us some more ?
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
Unions representing Air New Zealand's aircraft maintenance engineers, aircraft logistics and related staff have served notice of a planned strike four days out from Christmas – on the airline's busiest travel day of the year.
Your engineer mate going to cause disruption before Christmas
He didn't mention that ! "Bob" has never struck me as short of a quid and has worked there for at least a couple of decades and I would think he's one of their more senior staff so I would imagine he's one of the people on more than $150K. From what I have read there is now a global shortage of experienced LAME's (licensed aircraft maintenance engineers). Are they getting a bit greedy simply because they can ? If all the other unions are settling for x + 2% per annum to more than cover inflation why shouldn't they ?
Last edited by Beagle; 07-12-2018 at 09:17 AM.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
He didn't mention that ! "Bob" has never struck me as short of a quid and has worked there for at least a couple of decades and I would think he's one of their more senior staff so I would imagine he's one of the people on more than $150K. From what I have read there is now a global shortage of experienced LAME's (licensed aircraft maintenance engineers). Are they getting a bit greedy simply because they can ? If all the other unions are settling for x + 2% per annum to more than cover inflation why shouldn't they ?
Market forces at work. If I reckon my customers will pay I'll put my fees up, if competition enters the market I'll put my fees down. I like my job, but that doesn't mean I'll work for nothing.
Market forces at work. If I reckon my customers will pay I'll put my fees up, if competition enters the market I'll put my fees down. I like my job, but that doesn't mean I'll work for nothing.
One can't be too greedy mate, you're part of a team of over 11,000 people with multiple other unions to consider. If everyone moves purely in line with market forces with no respect or consideration for other team members or shareholders then there would be so much disruption we wouldn't have an airline at all.
Suppose Bob is on say $180,000 at a guess. He's probably earned that level as he's been with them for so long and is highly experienced and a good reliable hard working team member from what I have heard and is well respected in the community. I doubt many Kiwi's would think $180,000 is nothing and I doubt many would think a 2% pay rise per annum is unreasonable. Here's an idea, why don't you ask some of the incredibly hard working young teachers on $50K what they think ? If you guys play hardball you may find more overhaul work being sent overseas. I'd feel safer when I fly if the work is done here because I know people like Bob are very thorough and have the highest level of integrity but greed is ugly and sometimes has consequences...
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Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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I'm always going back and forth so i can start a return from either and also consider one way flights at times...American airlines, AIR and United are currently in play if you do not want to go via Australia..you can also get cheaper on code share at times...say fly American Airlines with a Qantas booking takes you to Auckland via AIR and AA from Auckland to LAX say on biz class...is the currently a steal...not a bad product, the food superior to AIR...
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