AIR - Air NZ.

[pierre]

Very smart - and long overdue. Look forward to visiting it on my Auckland/Napier flight on Wednesday.

[winner69]

This guy will never fly in a 737MAX

and mention that Dreamliners not as good as made out to be

https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/trav...37-max-safety/

[Beagle]

This guy will never fly in a 737MAX

and mention that Dreamliners not as good as made out to be

https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/trav...37-max-safety/

Engine maintenance issues still dogging these "dream"liners a full two years after problems first occurred. https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...cid=spartandhp

[winner69]

Engine maintenance issues still dogging these "dream"liners a full two years after problems first occurred. https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...cid=spartandhp

...maybe its not just the engines .....no doubt we’ll find out Indie course

[Beagle]

https://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/trav...OzXEMQvxdLv7VF Not good enough. Ten version of the engine which was supposed to have design enhancements to eliminate problems now itself needs more rigorous maintenance. AIR need to ante-up and seek meaningful compensation from Rolls Royce.
Discounts on future product is not good enough. Lemon engines for sure mate and probably always will be.
Was tempted to make a small top-up to my quite modest stake in AIR, (just 2.1% portfolio allocation), won't bother now.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12286107

[Raz]

https://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/trav...OzXEMQvxdLv7VF Not good enough. Ten version of the engine which was supposed to have design enhancements to eliminate problems now itself needs more rigorous maintenance. AIR need to ante-up and seek meaningful compensation from Rolls Royce.
Discounts on future product is not good enough. Lemon engines for sure mate and probably always will be.
Was tempted to make a small top-up to my quite modest stake in AIR, (just 2.1% portfolio allocation), won't bother now.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12286107

I understand the issue is more than just the engines, with higher temps the profile and weight of the aircraft body has changed placing more stress on the engine's amongst other things. Have found nothing valid to back this us online, just a person in the industry mentioned this to me in the US.

[Beagle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP0s...ature=youtu.be

Higher temps mentioned in this explanatory video. AIR now have their latest excuse for a possible downgrade....looks like issues remain until March. Which March is anyone's guess. IIRC this whole issue was originally going to be fully sorted by May 2018.
Take any deadline / schedule RR gives you with 64 million pinches of salt.

[winner69]

I thought the TENs were going to fix the TRENT problem?

Betcha there’s other problems with these Dreamliners - once a lemon always a lemon

[Beagle]

Nightmareliner

[Raz]

Nightmareliner

A number of airlines certainly have a strategy of having both main suppliers, Airbus and Boeing.

I'm sure this is more than an engine issue from what has been explained to me. It is an interrelated problem which is still dynamic as they gain more information of the composite of the plane heating up over repeated flights and therefore over it fuselage life. The weight gain, stress effects the engines and other parts of the planes systems. It all new, no previous experience given the composite of the plane is new.

I do wonder if it is economies of scale that made AIR just go just the one supplier way. Not proven to be a great risk management strategy regardless.