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21-01-2020, 11:24 AM
#15141
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
Sounds like their are more questions about Boeing's safety standards and trustworthiness. Here is another example from them for burying the truth after an accident:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/20/b...-accidents.htm
You sort of wonder whether AIR's decision to go for Boeing in their latest big acquisition spree was a good one.
Have through the grapevine that United who are flying 787-10's between SFO and AKL this summer for the first time are regularly locking out 30-40 seats due to payload issues..
The -10's may work for some Asian flights but I am skeptical of their performance on long haul flights to the west coast states and beyond..
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21-01-2020, 11:30 AM
#15142
Originally Posted by Benny1
Have through the grapevine that United who are flying 787-10's between SFO and AKL this summer for the first time are regularly locking out 30-40 seats due to payload issues..
The -10's may work for some Asian flights but I am skeptical of their performance on long haul flights to the west coast states and beyond..
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/ind...at-1720-return
17 hours 40 minutes on the southbound return journey must surely be pushing the fuel endurance limit of these aircraft ?
I guess they can easily stop at Fiji when headwinds are adversely strong...and I would think that might happen on the odd occasion.
How many of these birds on the ground now mate as this RR fiasco drags on and on and on...?
Last edited by Beagle; 21-01-2020 at 11:31 AM.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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21-01-2020, 11:53 AM
#15143
Originally Posted by Beagle
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/ind...at-1720-return
17 hours 40 minutes on the southbound return journey must surely be pushing the fuel endurance limit of these aircraft ?
I guess they can easily stop at Fiji when headwinds are adversely strong...and I would think that might happen on the odd occasion.
How many of these birds on the ground now mate as this RR fiasco drags on and on and on...?
Still only one grounded been a couple of engine changes lately that have managed to keep a couple more in the air..
New York will push the -9's...would imagine there will be a few tech stops required every now and then when headwinds dictate..
Would doubt they could carry much freight if any...
Can be an expensive exercise diverting to an island... Especially if your crew are close or do run out of duty hrs...
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21-01-2020, 01:16 PM
#15144
Originally Posted by Benny1
Still only one grounded been a couple of engine changes lately that have managed to keep a couple more in the air..
New York will push the -9's...would imagine there will be a few tech stops required every now and then when headwinds dictate..
Would doubt they could carry much freight if any...
Can be an expensive exercise diverting to an island... Especially if your crew are close or do run out of duty hrs...
Thanks Benny. I can't help wondering is these RR engines will ever achieve their design durability ?
"Quick splash and dash" will need to be quick for sure !
I guess with aircraft fuel pumping systems you can shift fuel around and run it under 10% residual capacity with an acceptable degree of safety ? When I owned a fancy boat I would never plan to go under 15% in case of fuel starvation due to pitch and heave movement in potential heavy weather conditions. No fun running a boat's engine(s) dry in rough conditions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8qBvw3ofyE
Last edited by Beagle; 21-01-2020 at 02:57 PM.
Ecclesiastes 11:2: “Divide your portion to seven, or even to eight, for you do not know what misfortune may occur on the earth.”
Ben Graham - In the short run the market is a voting machine but in the long run the market is a weighing machine
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21-01-2020, 02:36 PM
#15145
Yet another damming report on Boeing. After the alarming reports from employees coming out of the plant in North Carolina & the 737 Max disasters, looks like a pattern.
https://www.dailysabah.com/business/...lane-crash-nyt
Sorry BP didn't see you'd already posted a link, but anyway yours behind a paywall whereas this one isn't .
Last edited by Blue Skies; 21-01-2020 at 03:55 PM.
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21-01-2020, 04:02 PM
#15146
Originally Posted by Blue Skies
Yet another damming report on Boeing. After the alarming reports from employees coming out of the plant in North Carolina & the 737 Max disasters, looks like a pattern.
https://www.dailysabah.com/business/...lane-crash-nyt
Sorry BP didn't see you'd already posted a link, but anyway yours behind a paywall whereas this one isn't .
No problem, the more the merrier! Though - I think the NYT offers ten free reads per month, but yes, you probably need to register (for free) to get them.
Last edited by BlackPeter; 22-01-2020 at 07:53 AM.
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21-01-2020, 07:37 PM
#15147
Coronovirus, just to add another worry to the pile.
Luxon & Key timed their exits perfectly I reckon.
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22-01-2020, 08:04 AM
#15148
Originally Posted by Blue Skies
Coronovirus, just to add another worry to the pile.
Luxon & Key timed their exits perfectly I reckon.
think air stock price isnt reflecting the risk of this virus to travel , first case just announced in the US from a chinese traveller. NZ slack response is a worry considering we get so many chinese travellers to NZ.
Dow falls more than 100 points after CDC announces first US case of coronavirus, airlines decline
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/21/us-f...ply-lower.html
one step ahead of the herd
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23-01-2020, 05:39 AM
#15149
China coronavirus deaths rise to 17, heightening global alarm
Airports round the world stepped up screening from China. ( not NZ)
After official appeals to stay calm, many Chinese were cancelling trips, buying face masks, avoiding public places
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/22/chin...-state-tv.html
one step ahead of the herd
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23-01-2020, 10:03 AM
#15150
Originally Posted by bull....
China coronavirus deaths rise to 17, heightening global alarmAirports round the world stepped up screening from China. ( not NZ)
After official appeals to stay calm, many Chinese were cancelling trips, buying face masks, avoiding public places
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/22/chin...-state-tv.html
Just remind us - what did the previous health scares (like SARS, Ebola, ....) do to the NZX? I doubt that this will make any meaningful dent, but potentially we might see some buying opportunities for anything tourism related ...
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