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    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Munroe View Post
    If cullen Airlines wanted and could get an agreement on stratergy from Lee Kuan Yew Airlines it could buy back in to Virgin(Under arm bowlers division) at a good discount.

    Etihad need the cash and I'm pretty certain the China based holders are ruefully contemplating the balance between the ying and the yang of their buy in.

    However Cullen Airlines should be mindfull of the Kiwi dollars previously squandered trying to follow the yellow brick road of investment in Aussie aviation.

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    Marilyn regularly puts this up. Have never worked out why.

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    So nothing special about Air New Zealand - they can be as bad as any other airline as frequently as any other airline:

    Air NZ flight debacle traps passengers on Christchurch tarmac in 5-hour flight 'shambles'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow Leopard View Post
    So nothing special about Air New Zealand - they can be as bad as any other airline as frequently as any other airline:

    Air NZ flight debacle traps passengers on Christchurch tarmac in 5-hour flight 'shambles'
    “I would expect better from such a lauded airline," she said
    “Imagination is more important than knowledge.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow Leopard View Post
    So nothing special about Air New Zealand - they can be as bad as any other airline as frequently as any other airline:

    Air NZ flight debacle traps passengers on Christchurch tarmac in 5-hour flight 'shambles'
    My understanding talking to a broker that fly's into Queenstown on a very regular basis, (everyone knows this airport is surrounded by mountains and flights are subject to satisfactory weather) is that standard procedure as the alternate airport is Dunedin and passengers are transferred by bus to Queenstown. This happens quite often when bad weather prevents landing at Queenstown.
    Now I would speculate that due to the time of year, (peak tourist season for bus use) buses may not have been available on the day.

    The international gate thing at Chch airport, I don't know why., maybe all the domestic gates were in use ?

    Now lets get on to the accommodation side of things.
    They put all the passengers up in reasonable accommodation. This would have happened at both ends as pax scheduled to depart on the returning flight couldn't have as it didn't land.

    JetStar's approach and this is a very important difference, in these circumstances is to give people a $150 accommodation voucher. It is a well known fact that you simply cannot get accommodation of a reasonable standard in Queenstown in the peak summer period for anything remotely like that so the people scheduled to fly the return leg if that flight had of landed would have been really stuck if they were on JetStar and its also very difficult to find reasonable Auckland accommodation for $150 per night.

    Oh just one other thing...passengers stranded on a JetStar A320 would have had to endure 5 hours seated in seats with the world's tightest 29 inch pitch. That would be excruciatingly painful and uncomfortable for this big dog and I would imagine for most passengers.

    I am not trying to pretend that AIR get it right every time but most times I think they try harder than Jetheap and most other budget airlines. Remember when mother paper tiger told her cubs you get what you pay for ?...guess what, she is right !
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    Seems rather odd ....wheels falling off at AIR?

    Hundman, an assistant professor at NYU's Shanghai campus, told the Herald the flight took off from Auckland as scheduled close to midnight last night but "midway through our flight, the pilot informs us that Chinese authorities had not given this plane permission to land, so we needed to turn around. A permitting issue, supposedly," he says.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12202409
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Seems rather odd ....wheels falling off at AIR?

    Hundman, an assistant professor at NYU's Shanghai campus, told the Herald the flight took off from Auckland as scheduled close to midnight last night but "midway through our flight, the pilot informs us that Chinese authorities had not given this plane permission to land, so we needed to turn around. A permitting issue, supposedly," he says.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12202409
    This is bad and would annoy a lot of passengers. Spending what, 10 hours in the AIR to fly from Auckland to Auckland !?!?

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    Maybe its all political and Jacinda needs to talk to her Chinese contacts.

    If operational issue like not filing forms well nuff said
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow Leopard View Post
    So nothing special about Air New Zealand - they can be as bad as any other airline as frequently as any other airline:

    Air NZ flight debacle traps passengers on Christchurch tarmac in 5-hour flight 'shambles'
    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Seems rather odd ....wheels falling off at AIR?

    Hundman, an assistant professor at NYU's Shanghai campus, told the Herald the flight took off from Auckland as scheduled close to midnight last night but "midway through our flight, the pilot informs us that Chinese authorities had not given this plane permission to land, so we needed to turn around. A permitting issue, supposedly," he says.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12202409
    Apparently more frequently than any other airline then...
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    Very bad week for AIR with 2 out of approx. 2,000 flights proving to have inconvenienced passengers. OMG the wheels are falling off and the sky is falling in lol Obviously a slow week in the N.Z.media with more meaningful news. I guess Australian media don't bother reporting JetStar's and Virgin's fiasco's because the public get bored with reading about the same repetitive thing day in and day out... every day and that's before we even start talking about the truly woeful reliability of Tiger airlines...just look at the shockingly low respect the travelling public have for them https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/tiger-airways
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    To change the subject entirely is anyone else thinking "Pavlov's Dog" ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow Leopard View Post
    To change the subject entirely is anyone else thinking "Pavlov's Dog" ?
    You'll need to explain further, SL. eg, whose reflex action in response to what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow Leopard View Post
    To change the subject entirely is anyone else thinking "Pavlov's Dog" ?
    Beagle associates Holden with excellence
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    Very bad week for AIR with 2 out of approx. 2,000 flights proving to have inconvenienced passengers. OMG the wheels are falling off and the sky is falling in lol Obviously a slow week in the N.Z.media with more meaningful news. I guess Australian media don't bother reporting JetStar's and Virgin's fiasco's because the public get bored with reading about the same repetitive thing day in and day out... every day and that's before we even start talking about the truly woeful reliability of Tiger airlines...just look at the shockingly low respect the travelling public have for them https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/tiger-airways
    Couldn't agree more with your sentiments. Easy headline click bait material for the Herald, lets bash the national carrier, any outrage will do, esp when there's little other news. From other passengers sounds as though nobody was 'losing their minds' & the captain & cabin crew were highly communicative & did everything they could to make people comfortable in a difficult situation which was no fault of the airline. Do people really expect airlines to compensate all the passengers for lost work, taxis etc when a situation arises where the airline has to put safety first. Sometimes I think our social welfare system is producing such a sense of entitlement in this country. It's an airline for Gods sake, not the Dept of Social Welfare! Apologies in advance for my little rant, but compared to experiences I've had on American let alone other airlines (& don't even get me started on never again Jetstar) Air NZ did a good job looking after those pax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Beagle associates Holden with excellence
    They're right up there with Rolls Royce lol
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