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    A couple of engines need to go to Singapore to get fixed ...out of action for a few months .....bugger

    https://traveltalk.nz/news-opinion/a...mliner-issues/

    Once broken ...always a bit dodgy I reckon
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    A couple of engines need to go to Singapore to get fixed ...out of action for a few months .....bugger

    https://traveltalk.nz/news-opinion/a...mliner-issues/

    Once broken ...always a bit dodgy I reckon
    I'd like to think that after this latest round of inspections and the pending overhaul of the engines that are presently inspected as unsuitable for service would be put this whole matter to rest but unfortunately what I think is that the remaining engines in service are simply operationally acceptable for now, but they will also need to be overhauled in due course. I think this is a 100% certainty and RR simply cannot overhaul all these engines in worldwide service fast enough so regrettably its possible we could see ongoing disruption going forward well into 2019 as well.
    One would hope that AIR take this matter seriously and lease those 5 available 777's that someone talked about earlier this week which would give them considerable fleet optionality going forward. Hopefully AIR promptly give shareholders some detailed colour on how they will address this very serious issue ASAP.
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    https://www.flightradar24.com/ANZ99/111bdd8b

    NZL currently in a holding pattern off northland

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mush View Post
    https://www.flightradar24.com/ANZ99/111bdd8b

    NZL currently in a holding pattern off northland
    Obviously not going to Tokyo is it

    Long few hours going nowhere
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Obviously not going to Tokyo is it

    Long few hours going nowhere
    Got a problem with its air reticulation system

    Engine OK

    Bit dodgy these Dreamliners?
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Got a problem with its air reticulation system

    Engine OK

    Bit dodgy these Dreamliners?
    It’s only a few months old that ZK-NZL .....do AIRplanes have warranties?
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Got a problem with its air reticulation system

    Engine OK

    Bit dodgy these Dreamliners?
    After three hours back at AKL ...prob time to fit in one movie

    What happens on board when air reticulation goes wonky
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    Oh dear...RR in the gun for repair and no doubt for direct costs like alternative leased aircraft but what about other impacts on AIR ?
    What about the fact that with all the unknowns with these aircraft's engines, *where there's smoke there's fire" and with schedule changes coming left right and center for months on end and leased in old planes...the question becomes if you were booking a trip in the near future and there's another quality airline that travels on the same route why would you take a chance on AIR now ?
    How do you quantify the reputational damage and loss of business ? I would think the chances of getting compensation for that from RR even if you could quantify it is slim to none. Are analysts who are notoriously slow to change their opinion with AIR about to follow the hounds nose and sniff the breeze of headwinds coming ?

    Goodwill only lasts so long and if you keep mucking people around without compensating them properly, (which seems to be their current modus operandi, i.e. just claim on your travel insurance and gosh we're sorry folks it's not our fault), eventually even loyal customers get miffed and book on another airline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    Oh

    Goodwill only lasts so long and if you keep mucking people around without compensating them properly, (which seems to be their current modus operandi, i.e. just claim on your travel insurance and gosh we're sorry folks it's not our fault), eventually even loyal customers get miffed and book on another airline.
    Agree Beagle. Yesterday I sold all my AIR shares. Today I am looking for an alternative airline to fly with my regular long haul flights. I wont be alone. AIR has got serious reputation issues and keeping their heads in the sand will not fix it

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