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    Quote Originally Posted by 777 View Post
    Beating up the national carrier has always been a national pastime.

    And the Crown only owns slightly more than half.
    I wonder if it has ever occurred to some people that :-
    1. AIR immediately took steps on Friday afternoon to waive change of booking fees and allow people to take other flights at the original price paid
    2. AIR exec's might have been very busy most of Saturday trying to find extra capacity to put on Chch routes ?
    3. That AIR are still struggling to meet capacity and flight schedules due to the RR engine issue
    4. Do these "experts" realise its the weekend and most executives would have been at home with their families ?
    5. It might take some time to put in a software edit to change the pricing structure in the companies booking system.

    Anyone can pretend they are the CEO and could do better and many often do. As you suggest, its almost a national pastime. What I find interesting and sad is those same people don't bother offering a single constructive comment on the situation itself in the appropriate thread https://www.sharetrader.co.nz/showth...ch-2019)/page2

    I see AIR are refunding the difference in price paid for all tickets bought between the massacre and before the capped prices were introduced, such that nobody will pay more than the capped price for any ticket purchased after this atrocity occurred. Of course I expect the cynics will say that's just a marketing stunt and they should never have charged extra in the first place...like somehow the airline can instantly change its systems for goodness sake...

    I for one have complete confidence that AIR's executives have done the best job they could in extraordinary circumstances.
    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...cid=spartandhp
    Anyone cynical enough to think this is just marketing PR is a very sad person in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Love Robertson quote “"Their call, and the right one." .....yeah right

    Bit different from an earlier communication

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    We're saddened by the tragic events that has occurred and are trying to help those with travel over the weekend and those that are directly affected. Although we've been putting on additional capacity we have very little availability which is why the fares have increased. ^NA



    That ^NA no doubt just doing his job ....failed leadership

    Beagle and others should send Chris a blast with their outrage. Uber-esque pricing strategies do not apply to our ‘national carrier’
    The whole thing shows a lack of thought by all involved and also shines real transparency on Government influence..its "our" airline however that is also at the expense of the minority private shareholders, as required. It is not the first case one would be suspicious of Government direction/pressure over the past year.

    The lack of capacity is the turbo prop adoption for near all regional flights from Christchurch combined with the airport set up with security arrangements that assume terrorism is not a consideration except for jets. Where assumptions can leave you.

    Concerning the compassionate policy, it is stuff of urban legend how it works so unfairly in practice, day to day, talk about so many bitter people as a result of their policy. Wonder if it really works for them, longer term, trade off additional revenue vs loss of goodwill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    . Uber-esque pricing strategies do not apply to our ‘national carrier’
    Why not? Shouldnt they? Airlines are one big uber and demand is their profit - I wouldve thought.
    Of course not in an event like this but normally, as a shareholder , wouldnt you say bring it on (pricing based on demand)
    After all when the plane takes off an empty seat is worth 0 so why not the other way round
    For clarity, nothing I say is advice....

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    Current management have been riding the wave of momentum generated by the previous, whom invested heavily in their staff. The wave has broken and current management are caught cavitating in the white water, hence the continued slide in share price.

    "BRING BACK ROB" I say

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTFQ View Post
    Current management have been riding the wave of momentum generated by the previous, whom invested heavily in their staff. The wave has broken and current management are caught cavitating in the white water, hence the continued slide in share price.

    "BRING BACK ROB" I say
    You must be joking.
    Rob was a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    You must be joking.
    Rob was a joke.
    Those that worked there at the time they would use stronger language than that. External factors have been kind to AIR for a good period of time, although times do change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    You must be joking.
    Rob was a joke.
    Wouldn't bring back Rob but some of his off siders did a lot for this company.
    Vanessa Stoddard was a very good HR leader and gained the respect of engineering and operations when she took over that role.
    Stephen Jones who was head of strategy for a long time was a class act and is very well respected in the airline world he is currently deputy CEO at Wizz Air.
    Bruce Parton was the longest serving of the senior managers..he left last year.
    Current crop of senior managers have a lot to prove to come even close to these guys... IMHO.... Well definitely Vanessa and Stephen.!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raz View Post
    Those that worked there at the time they would use stronger language than that.

    So wrong.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny1 View Post
    Wouldn't bring back Rob but some of his off siders did a lot for this company.
    Vanessa Stoddard was a very good HR leader and gained the respect of engineering and operations when she took over that role.
    Stephen Jones who was head of strategy for a long time was a class act and is very well respected in the airline world he is currently deputy CEO at Wizz Air.
    Bruce Parton was the longest serving of the senior managers..he left last year.
    Current crop of senior managers have a lot to prove to come even close to these guys... IMHO.... Well definitely Vanessa and Stephen.!
    You need to delve a little deeper into Vanessa Stodard’s legacy with Air NZ.
    You may find it quite contradictory to what you have posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biker View Post
    You need to delve a little deeper into Vanessa Stodard’s legacy with Air NZ.
    You may find it quite contradictory to what you have posted.
    So true...

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