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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaa View Post
    It is becoming common overseas to quarantine overseas arrivals in hotels only until they receive a negative COVID test result, usually at day 2 or 3. If negative then people continue the 14 days at home in self-quarantine. Hong Kong is the most advanced at this using a mobile app to track movement and wristband, Malaysia too has something similarly successful.

    Seems to be little appetite for this in NZ yet but its a much more sustainable approach. Maybe in a few months when things have settled down. Even if it was just for people who have spent the last 30 days in Australia would make a big difference in the number of rooms required. Also be interesting to see what % of people test positive at day 12 compared to day 3.
    Isolation at home - seemed to be issues with this at the start with people not really isolating.
    Then we had a recent case where they tested negative on day 3 but positive on day 5.
    It may make a fair middle ground but the 1st case we get of someone testing positive at home will drive the media (and some on these threads) foamy at the mouth.
    I'm not sure NZers understand what a low or medium risk option would look like - they'd assume no risk until something happened.

    People want the borders open now but they also want zero risk - can't be done.
    I think the media drives some of this in their desire to get copy and clicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    Isolation at home - seemed to be issues with this at the start with people not really isolating.
    Then we had a recent case where they tested negative on day 3 but positive on day 5.
    It may make a fair middle ground but the 1st case we get of someone testing positive at home will drive the media (and some on these threads) foamy at the mouth.
    I'm not sure NZers understand what a low or medium risk option would look like - they'd assume no risk until something happened.

    People want the borders open now but they also want zero risk - can't be done.
    I think the media drives some of this in their desire to get copy and clicks.
    Yes the media partly but mostly I blame Todd Muller and his National Party who have been very cynical in a desperate attempt to turn around their fortunes. Open the border, shut the border, bring people to Queenstown, no not those people, managed isolation is a shambles but bring everyone home anyway! Nothing constructive.

    Longer term I like the idea of people who have been in a green zone of countries that have no community transmission being allowed to quarantine at home after a negative day 3 test. No chance of that happening before the election with National's hysterics.

    Shocking but almost inevitable with Muller's poor leadership that ex-National president and key party figure Michelle Boag and National MP Hamish Walker thought it was ok to leak private, confidential health data. They are simply not fit to govern.

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    The Qantas raise at $3.65 is looking smart with the news from Melbourne today and the shares closing at $3.66.

    Air NZ better get a move on or the placement price has a good chance of getting lower the longer they sit on their hands...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    Govt are talking to other airlines as well but ~ 80% of returning Kiwi's are coming on AIR, (according to various stuff I have read today on this).
    More constraints and political risk/uncertainty..not getting any easier running a business flying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raz View Post
    More constraints and political risk/uncertainty..not getting any easier running a business flying.
    Emirates freezes new bookings for 3 weeks too. Yes mate, these new changes will certainly make an impact going forward...speaking of impact https://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/ne...ectid=12346353
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    Emirates freezes new bookings for 3 weeks too. Yes mate, these new changes will certainly make an impact going forward...speaking of impact https://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/ne...ectid=12346353
    Looks like they didn't do a proper "chicken test" (https://www.prmarketingbollox.com/bl...e-chicken-test) before releasing this plane :
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    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...rtan-dhp-feeds

    N.Z. Inc puts up the no vacancy sign
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow Leopard View Post
    Due to fly London - Doha - Kuala Lumpur in a few weeks with Qatar Airways.

    I will have to wear a mask, face shield & gloves and their crew uniform looks like a hazmat suit.

    Gone are the good old days of flying.
    I reckon you're going to rock that new face shield snowie https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=12345343
    At least some airlines are taking passengers safety seriously, unlike AIR who take a she'll be right what could possibility go wrong approach
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    Been quite a bit of pressure to resume flights to COVID free realm countries and it now looks like it will happen. Small ray of sunshine for Air NZ. Anyone fancy a some sun?

    Pacific bubble: Flights between Cook Islands and NZ to be confirmed next week

    Edit: Looks more like wishful thinking from the Cook Islands side at his stage.
    Flights to Rarotonga: PM Jacinda Ardern shuts down talk of Pacific bubble next week
    Last edited by Jaa; 14-07-2020 at 04:52 PM.

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