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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    "Concerning flights and aircraft, it really come down to the configuration by the airline rather than the aircraft".


    Raz just in case you're not aware, the Dreamliner is a big advance, carbon composite plane (rather than traditional aluminium) meaning its lighter & stronger kg for kg.
    It allows the cabin pressure to be kept at around 6000 ft altitude, about 2000 ft lower than on other planes, and the humidity level is kept at a more comfortable level for pax (because water is extra weight on a plane & corrodes aluminium) so much reduces passenger fatigue, dry eyes & nose, headaches etc. Also the extra strong carbon composite allows the cabin windows to be about 30% larger so much nicer looking out at the view.
    There certainly is quite a difference in terms of passenger comfort matching like for like configuration.
    Lighter weight also better economics for the airline.
    Happy you had a great experience, for me it comes down to the seat and I know the dreamliner well.

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    Sounds a bit ominous


    Qantas urged to ground all of its 737s after second aircraft crack discovered

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...31-p5360y.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Sounds a bit ominous


    Qantas urged to ground all of its 737s after second aircraft crack discovered

    https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...31-p5360y.html
    Qantas have enjoyed a stellar reputation for safety over the years. You could argue there's nothing to worry about but a pessimist might suggest its their turn for a major accident
    Speaking of 737 drama's. I had a bit of a chuckle the other day about one of the senators statements when he was giving Boeing's CEO a roasting at the congressional hearing into the 737MAX fiasco. He said he'd rather walk than fly on one of their 737MAX's !

    Thankfully AIR don't have any of those shonky planes as they have enough to deal with regarding the dodgy engines on their nightmareliners.
    The other day I read that Rolls Royce engineers had a lot to do with helping BMW, (BMW own Rolls Royce vehicles division), calibrate the air suspension system on their premier model the 7 Series BMW. That's all I needed to read in terms of avoiding one of those...
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    Interesting to see Jetstar on this list of 10 safest airlines in the World. Dreamliner problems no doubt weighing on AIR http://www.jacdec.de/airline-safety-ranking-2018/

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Interesting to see Jetstar on this list of 10 safest airlines in the World. Dreamliner problems no doubt weighing on AIR http://www.jacdec.de/airline-safety-ranking-2018/

    When you think about it, in the modern era these kinds of airline safety rankings are a complete waste of time, pandering only to the obsessions of nervous flyers.
    Comparing a handful of incidents spread over millions of flights and millions & millions of passenger miles flown, and reducing them to fractions of fractions of fractions of a percentage to come up with a safety ranking is rather meaningless.
    (Still, I always feel most relaxed when flying on AIR )

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    The Singapore A350-900 landed easy easy at Wellington today

    Wellington/Singapore and onwards good value


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    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-...+November+2019

    Thankfully AIR don't have any of these 737's with their dodgy pickle forks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    [url]https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-11-01/qantas-says-three-boeing-737-found-with-cracks/11661320?section=business&utm_source=ST&utm_medium =email&utm_campaign=ShareTrader+AM+Update+for+Satu rday+2+November+2019[/url
    Thankfully AIR don't have any of these 737's with their dodgy pickle forks.
    No thankfully they don't... But they don't mind code sharing and putting their passengers on them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny1 View Post
    No thankfully they don't... But they don't mind code sharing and putting their passengers on them!
    No worries whatsoever because Boeing says 737's with stress cracks in their pickle forks are good for at least another 1000 cycles and we know we can complelty trust everything Boeing tells us
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    Winner sent me this, absolutely fascinating piece of history if you're into bird watching, so I thought I would share it on here. Enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTN-x21W2kQ Many thanks for sharing this Winner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    Winner sent me this, absolutely fascinating piece of history if you're into bird watching, so I thought I would share it on here. Enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTN-x21W2kQ Many thanks for sharing this Winner.
    The Sunderland flying boat doing a ‘touch and go’ was pretty cool
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
    No worries whatsoever because Boeing says 737's with stress cracks in their pickle forks are good for at least another 1000 cycles and we know we can complelty trust everything Boeing tells us
    Ryanair grounding some now
    https://www.theguardian.com/business...g-and-fuselage

    Spose Dreamliners will end up with structural concerns one day
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    Funny the names of these parts isn't it. Up until a few days ago I thought pickle forks were very small forks one might use on gherkins and pickles lol.

    Benny1 probably has a view on how durable the carbon fiber birds will be.
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    There was an excellent radio interview a few days ago with an aircraft engineer on this issue where he explained every mechanical device, cars, bridges, aircraft, etc suffers fatigue from day 1 of use & parts will eventually need replacing. This part did exactly what it is supposed to do, ie not break, but show a tiny hairline crack indicating earliest stages of a degree of fatigue reached many many cycles before it becomes a safety issue. The problem is not one of safety but of perception to the public & that’s fundamentally why they will replace these pickle forks well before their use by date. He went on to say the issue was raised by unions not aircraft engineers & implying a political motive. I remember talking to an elderly relative who flew bombers during WW2 & his descriptions of aircraft half shot to pieces with bits missing still able to fly home.

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    Yeah, I did a bit of flight training on little two seater Tomahawk aircraft back in the day https://www.airteamimages.com/piper-...te_221239.html
    and when they had stress cracks in the tail rotor they would just drill a small hole through the aluminium to stop the stress crack spreading.
    Used to do the books of a couple of helicopter operators and I'll never forget the time when they sold one of their AS350B squirrel's. The sale and purchase documentation and engineers reports contained a page and a half of items that weren't perfect but the Helicopter was still considered "airworthy" I was told this is not abnormal.
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