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    Is this $3 some magical number?
    Once released from the snare the sky's the limit?

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    AT $3.005 now!

    Quote Originally Posted by theace View Post
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11572572

    It would be great if AirNZ had a code share on this!
    There most likely will be, along with Virgin Australia. AIR already have a partnership with SQ on the Auckland and Christchurch routes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Left field View Post
    Oil headed for $20 per barrel??
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...r-appreciation

    Got to be good for AIR and NZR
    I see low oil prices as sprinkling fish food into a stream..The big fish get the most benefit, the remainder floats around and attracts more fish that weren't there to begin with...I think AIR is not classed as a big fish.

    Airlines V Oil correlation is not good...Recessions kills both Cyclical Airlines and Oil prices which upsets any (false) "logical" conclusions that correlation exists ....If we think this time the Oil price is not a reaction to negative Global economic growth...then perhaps there "could" be a hint of correlation.

    The chart below illustrates AIR's relationship with Oil..Its a pity there is no very long term freely available chart data to validate accurately the relationship.
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    AIR is testing the psychological $3.00 Resistance
    The $3.00 resistance theory (chart) v Practical (Depth)...the depth shows the charted resistance line is quite strong..
    The cyclical resistance is not far away...

    If AIR is not a true cyclical* (Averaging positive Organic growth within its market environment over decades) then the cyclic resistance could be under threat

    *...True Cyclical companies grow strongly during good economic times and shrink strongly during bad economic times...net result over time = no
    overall growth (flat line, no trend)

    Last edited by Hoop; 12-01-2016 at 12:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelvin View Post
    AT $3.005 now!...............
    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    Is this $3 some magical number?
    Once released from the snare the sky's the limit?
    No...$3.11 is the primary resistance then its blue skies..
    The depth $3.00 resistance is now gone...
    This theoretically means lower risk to buy...as $3.00 now becomes a support..so the risk v reward equation becomes more favourable..
    However the reward side of the equation is still low as the cyclical (primary) resistance is still there..

    Its all to do with safer investing...You lose the opportunity for big gains at high risk and replace it with smaller gains with lower risk

    Disc: dipped my toes in..bought a small parcel...viewed as possible short term (hold until sell signals)
    Last edited by Hoop; 12-01-2016 at 01:02 PM.

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    Hoop, is that ANZ securities that you get the recent trades info from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theace View Post
    It would be great if AirNZ had a code share on this!
    Are there enough chaps travelling on government money to fill an A330, is the runway at WLG long enough for an A330?

    I think Cullen Airlines and Queer and Nasty Airlines would have already run the ruler over a WLG --> CBR service and gone "yeah nah".

    Boop boop de do
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    lie flat premium class seats and budget economy ones.... some more competition for air nz from march.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11572678

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    Quote Originally Posted by WingingIt View Post
    Hoop, is that ANZ securities that you get the recent trades info from?
    ...Yes.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    The s/p doesn't signal strong confidence atp and other brokers have t/p's from $2.80 to $3.03. Anyone got other broker reports?Time will tell re if are they "usually" right or" seldom".Craigs have re 7 Airline stocks ahead of AIR in target prices atm.With oil prices staying low , it certainly helps. Not a high conviction stock for me atp but holding with a good margin of safety atm , price purchasewise.Then theres things like terrorism alerts to worry about, unfortunately.
    Have laboured through the pricing then 18/11/15 and the share pricing now of re 22 Airlines

    AIR has performed in 6th place with re +5% QAN re +5.4%

    12 of the Airlines have negative returns

    AIR FRANCE the highest return re +21% LUFTHANSA
    next with re +12%

    Bottom is AIR CHINA,CHINA EAST<CHINA SOUTH -23 to -25%

    3 USA Airlines negative Delta AAL UAL

    LOW COST RYAN AIR +6.7% EASY JET +1.75%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Have laboured through the pricing then 18/11/15 and the share pricing now of re 22 Airlines

    AIR has performed in 6th place with re +5% QAN re +5.4%

    12 of the Airlines have negative returns

    AIR FRANCE the highest return re +21% LUFTHANSA
    next with re +12%

    Bottom is AIR CHINA,CHINA EAST<CHINA SOUTH -23 to -25%

    3 USA Airlines negative Delta AAL UAL

    LOW COST RYAN AIR +6.7% EASY JET +1.75%
    Lot of looking up ...add value to the output by saying what you think it all means.

    Be interested in your conclusions
    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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